You are invited to review SpeedSuccess.com
Hi guys,
You're invited to express your thoughts/criticisms/anything whatsoever
towards: http://business.speedsuccess.com/bootcamp
Your input is important to me.
Thank you very much,
Andre Vas
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Greg K posted this at 07:55 — 10th March 2005.
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Ok, normally I wouldn't post any type of a review when you haven't followed the forum guidelines of reviewing other sites first, but...
First impression: Click on the [X] to close the window. We had a discussion about sites like yours on here, I'll find it and post a link to it.
-Greg
Andre_Vas posted this at 08:39 — 10th March 2005.
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Oops - thanks for that Greg. Yes, please post me a link... as I'm more interested in reading what people already had to say about a similar site as you stated.
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Megan posted this at 14:49 — 10th March 2005.
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All I see here is a big add covering up the whole front of the site. I don't even know what it's about but I'm already wanting to leave.
Scrolling down, all I see is text, text, and more text. Who is going to read all that? I really have no idea why marketing sites think that this is a good way to design a site. You see it all the time though. Text, everywhere, all full of stuff that sounds too good to be true (and probably is). It just doesn't give you any credibility.
Start by designing a site properly, with a logo, navigation menu, and content area. Each article should be on its own page with a title.
Megan
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StraitNoChaser posted this at 15:21 — 10th March 2005.
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The first thing I saw at your site was a great big ad that covered the whole page. I got scared and ran away! Your kung fu is bad, with a touch of sinister yuk yuk...
YourSale
Andre_Vas posted this at 15:36 — 10th March 2005.
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Sorry I forgot to mention - I'm only interested in professional
direct response marketers answers... people that have years
of copywriting experience.
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Fluffi posted this at 09:47 — 11th March 2005.
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This beg's the question, why are you asking 'webmasters' on a 'webmasters forum' to not review your site from a webmasters point of view, but from a 'marketing' point of view.
Sorry, I just can't see past the irony here, wouldn't you be better asking this question on a forum for people involved in marketing?
RF
openmind posted this at 21:51 — 10th March 2005.
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Oh OK so not interested in the opinions of Webmasters from around the world with many, many years experience in web design, standards, compatibility and everything else that goes into that big thing called the Internet?
You can have the best copy in the world but if the site is crap, it aint gonna make a whole lot of difference...
Andre_Vas posted this at 23:59 — 10th March 2005.
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Reason I say that is because:
Many people don't understand the science of "direct response marketing".
When you ask for their opinions - they tell you stuff like put a logo, use fancy
colours, and brake up the page into navigation.
Apparently - these people obviously never picked up a book on "what sells", and
actually been in the copywriting field both offline AND online for a long time.
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You see it's very difficult to find a qualified copywriter and direct response marketer
who will advice on one's website. And only they can tell you the real truth regarding
your copy, design.
This is why I say it.
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Busy posted this at 09:36 — 11th March 2005.
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You mean spam?
Because this stuff is important and can be the difference between a sale and an alt f4
Obvisously you've never been in customer relations. If you belive everything people put in books ... well I wont go there.
That's why they ask web developers that have been in the market for years watching the trends and styles of what works and what doesn't, what sells and what blows. Even then web develepers/designers ask/sample new methods/styles etc with the average Joe that knows nothing about web design. After all it is the little guy you want on your site for whatever reason.
You know the funny part of all this, on your site (no I didn't read it, just stoped at a section and saw this) Of course this entire process is covered in the tapes themselves and the "Information Marketing Bootcamp" CD's.... so rest assured, you will never find yourself not knowing what to do next. I guess you haven't got the CD's yet huh
sumeiko posted this at 07:08 — 11th March 2005.
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The first thing I notice when I enter this site is the amount of text content it has. I suggest you break up the information into specific pages and add a navigation menu at the top of the page so that visitors can find their way around the site more easily.
I also reccommend that you put some images on the site to brighten the page up and make in more interesting to look at. Although you have formatted the text to make it look more interesting, pictures will make the page look much better.
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Renegade posted this at 09:01 — 11th March 2005.
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Andre_Vas, you can't just focus on just one thing, as already mentioned, you can have the best copy that you can get, but, it won't make a whole lot of difference if it's not presented properly.
This may not be the best analogy but, you can't have blood if you have no skin to hold it in. You need to deliver your "package" in a presentable manner.
JeevesBond posted this at 09:16 — 11th March 2005.
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Andre_Vas, I'm a consumer I know what sells to me and that sort of thing never has. The page opens, we're presented by inordinate amounts of text, all of which seems to be the word "spam" I know there're some other words under the spam but the brain cannot interpret them.
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Andre_Vas posted this at 11:59 — 11th March 2005.
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I actually appreciate all your input guys.
This is great feedback!
I do hear something VERY COMMONLY:
The page is TOOOOOOOO long. Brake it up.
Well I won't brake it up actually, but what I'll do is something that I need
YOUR comments/input on.
Do you think you'll want TO stick AROUND the site longer if there was a link
that offered people "in a hurry" a quick 5 minute summary of the whole package?
So in otherwords - it takes them to a link... with a much SHOOORTER sales letter?
Please let me know....
Andre
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Fluffi posted this at 12:18 — 11th March 2005.
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But don't take this the wrong way, but I AM a trainee ACCOUNTANT, with ACCA, I know the implications of your kinds of schemes on the kind of people they are marketed to, and I am now finding it hard to keep my objectivity when it comes to reviewing your site. For that reason I will no longer continue to review your website. Further to that I do not believe that it is appropriate for TWF to continue reviewing this, especially given your attitude to the valid criticismn offered by members here, and the fact that is that in my experienece your site is ethically wrong! However that is merely my opinion and the TWF is free to act independently of that and I respect the opinions of the moderators here.
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Cheers
Fluffi
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Andre_Vas posted this at 22:17 — 11th March 2005.
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Yes! You are 100% right. This is the wrong forum to have my site reviewed.
Would you say the same thing for: marketingtips.com/tipsltr.html ???
(I'm sure you CAN'T argue with a guy that makes 7.6 million a year... notice that the site structure is the same as mine)
If you would then this is DEFINATELY the wrong forum to have my site reviewed!
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Greg K posted this at 22:51 — 11th March 2005.
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I just did some checking, and IMO, this thread should be closed until you comply with the posting policies for posting in this area that I pointed out in the first reply.
That right there should give you an idication of what reaction your site gets ; that it's type that will just call to the moderators to post about it even though they normally wouldn't until you followed policy.
-Greg
[Note: at time of posting, you had only posted one message not in one of your two threads]
Renegade posted this at 09:44 — 12th March 2005.
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Anyone can argue with anyone, just need to find something argue about, none the less, this thread is going to be closed...
Greg K posted this at 22:43 — 11th March 2005.
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Here is the thread I was refering to in my original post.
http://www.webmaster-forums.net/showthread.php?t=27213
-Greg
Andre_Vas posted this at 22:47 — 11th March 2005.
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Thank you very much... I'll go review it right now.
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