Review Request: www.gamecubecheats.net

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Hey, i have changed teh layout, made it look nice. All but 3 sections are working. Give it a look and let me know

Thanks

also, it looks good from my viewpoint in all browsers except for Opera 6. The main menu is still not aligned correctly. But in IE 6.0 and NS 6.2, it looks wonderful
bryan

gamecubecheats.net

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hey,

That looks much better without it all hanging off the blue bar. But.......
Did you know that you have 3 body tags in your code as well as 2 title tags and some other extra stuff? Look back over your code and you will see this. This will probably explain why the pages is not rendering properly in Opera.

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Well, i can't explain why that is why it is, because its not like that in my code while i am working on it. I think one of the tags in the middle of the page are from the file i am grabbing off the server. I did a

<--include virtual blah blha menu.shtml --> or whatever. That isn't right, but that is similar to what i did. So its the head tags of the file i am grabbing. Hope that makes sense.

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I love how it looks, the only beef I have is the logo doesn't fit with the rest of it. Great job otherwise.

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My first impression of the site is that its very neat... and organised - exactly what I look for when I'm searching for cheats... (not that I need them, of course. *ahem*.) Laughing out loud

I have a few small comments though:

  • Everything on the edge is up against the wall. Pad things (nav/poll box/logo) in a little. Even 3px of space from the edge will make a big difference. Wink
  • The nav font is quite small, so I guess it qualifies as a mini-menu, so add bullet points or some sort of marker to each of them. It'll also add to that organised feel. Smiling
  • Do you really need those graphical titles for "Links" and "Affiliates"?
  • Separate the links in the box in the center with something like a pipe "|" or colons "::" or something.
  • poll box is too narrow.

Obviously, I'm only pointing out minor details. Sorry to be so nitpicky. Sticking out tongue

Seriously, I really like the look you are going for. Smiling

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On clicking on your link, 3 pop-unders appeared out of nowhere and ruined my impression of your site. But looks pretty neat on the whole.

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3!!!!!! what

Thats odd. I am on an affiliat program, popuptraffic.com and SI program, but 1 should pop up. SOrry about that. Never happened to me, even when i have visited my own site.

Again my apologies

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For that font you all are talking about, i am not sure if you mean on the left or the top. But i have to find a comfort level for users using one side of the spectrom, 800x 600 and then users using the other side, like 1200 x 920 or whatever. I am 21 and i know i am now learning this:) but its impossible to make the world happy. There will always be complaints.

I agree with the padding issue though, i noticed my poll box was to close to the left side. Its left aligned in a cell, maybe i could just center it and it will move it over some. I am actually kinda shocked someone said my logo didn't go with the rest of the site Sad, i thought it blended in very well. I do understand if someone doesn't have very high quality color for their resolution that it won't blend the colors well, but that is going to happen regardless of the site

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Project CM, which link did you click

You may have clicked my special link:), my allclicks link. Did it take you to clickheretofind.com . That isn't part of my site just to let you know, its just an affiliate program. Sorry if it bugged you. If it was called NEW SECTION. Not sure if that is what you clicked though.

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if you cant adjust your table padding/spacing you can use &nbsp; before the links at the left, this will space it out one space, so would look something like:

&nbsp;

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Hey man, I like the site's layout and use of colors.

The only problem is that I automaticly expected the navigation to be on the left, so I clicked it... and it seemed to be a link. That could also be just me, not using my eyes Cool

Oh, and I would do something about the color of the 'Send the comment' button on the feedback page. It's a kinda purple, and I think you don't want it that to be. I also see different fonts on the pages.

BTW. I got 1 popup.

Hope this helps,

Shakespeare: onclick || !(onclick)

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Hi

you site is awful, and you know why, if you want people to tell you what they think, then you should drop the lame "pop adverts", or is it that you are only trying to make $$ when people click on the link.......

UNREAL.............

F!

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I really don't think you should be so harsh. I have seen great improvement in jags site since the first post for review. I give jag an A+ for tons of effort. I don't like the pop ups either but that is his choice isn't it?

Smile and be happy.Laughing out loud

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Thanks for all the help guys. You really have all been such a help in my web developing attitude and ability. It takes alot of constructive criticism to become good, even from you FATAQUI. For one thing though FATAQUI, there are not a ton of site out there that don't have popups, so i propose you get used to it. I only have 1 popup when an individual enters the page. If they happen to click that one link, then they will be hit with 3 popups, but the thing is, i don't think they will stop coming to my site, they will just stop clicking that link. Everything else on the site works. Also, that one popup that popups when you enter my site is suppose to be a popunder, so to be less annoying, unfortuntely, it sometimes does the opposite. Sorry, i ahve a code called teh 12 hr code and it basically has the popup come once, then logs the ip of the user so when they come back again, it WON"T popup. I can't get it to work though.

Maybe i will eventually put the menu on the left.

About the extra tags in the middle of my source. If any of you noticed that, it is coming from my 2 menus i call using the command <--include virtual...menu.shtml --> So it shows up. Is that normal for calling another html file inside your current html file? Someone said it will hurt with search engine ratings.

Also, one last question. I know i don't have meta tags on all my pages, but when i do, what should i do to get listed on search engines better. I am #1 on google right now for the search term gamecube cheats

Thanks Disaster-Master for the compliment

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Hi...Went to your site again and the fact is I clicked on the link you provided in this thread and 3 pop-ups appeared out of nowhere. And going by the Principle of Sufficient Reason, the ads must have been deliberately added by you or your web host...

But if it's really only 1 pop-up, I've no qualms about that. And regarding the design again, its easy on the eye and that's what I always look for, so it really isn't bad at all.

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Jag,

I ran across this today at Site Pro News. Didn't read it....just saw the title and thought it may be of some interest to you.

http://www.sitepronews.com/archives/2002/feb/8.html

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Hey thanks disaster, that was truely interesting and i completely agree. See, the programs i use are STANDARD INTERNET or SI. I am sure you have heard of them. Unfortutenly, there isn't alot of flexibility with those prgorams (i.e, the amount of popups to have ect. and their exit popup program isn't accepting any new members. I have a 12 hr cookie code to use with this popup program and i would love to implement it, but can get it to work. For example, here is the address to the cookie and what my site is set up for. The first one is the code provided to make the popup. The 2nd is a .js file that has teh cookie code set inside it, set for 12 hours, i think. But it doesn't work, cuz if you go to my site and then leave and then come back it doesn't stop poping up. Can you help. you can click the 2nd link and download the .js file i believe.

<script LANGUAGE="JavaScript" src="http://www.popuptraffic.com/assign.php?l=jag5311&mode=behind"> </script>

<script language="JavaScript"
src="http://www.gamecubecheats.net/popup/popup.js"></script>

and I know i am a newbie and all, but part of the reason for having those money making things is so i can pay for hosting, ect. Hope you understand,i don't know any other way to use my site to actually make money.

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I am not proficient in the pop up or javascript department. Probably best to get someone else to help you with that.

Hope you get it working though.

DM

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if you include files, in this case <--include virtual...menu.shtml --> dont use html tags in it, well use them to display the contents but dont use the html, head, meta, title, /head, body, /body or /html tags in it.

as for your code above, the first one is in correct, your caling a php file via a javascript tag, the word javascript should be php (php can be called this way as well) but usually its code given to you by the exchange compnay so messing with it could void your contract, check with them first before doing anything.

you mention you want to make money, I doubt youd get rich but may earn enough to pay your bills, instead of popups maybe consider a banner, (i cant believe i'm saying this lol) with pop ups, they can be turned off or killed (pop up killer programs) or as an option in opera, at least a banner has to be seen (doesnt mean it will be clicked).

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Overall I think you have a nice site - the only the that really stuck out to me was the main header graphic. I really didn't care for it much. I think its the filter you used on it - that I dont like.

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Hey, thanks for the advice guys and girls:) The pop up thing i figured out. The .js file is suppose to REPLACE the popuptraffic.com script. I was basically running 3 popups and i thought it was one. I have to change it on the cheats page, but the home page, if you go once you will see the popup, but if you go back within the next 12 hrs, it won't popup. Also, the code is OK. i have check with the popuptraffic guys and they are ok with it. It only counts a unique popup every 12 hrs, so once a person goes, its like wasting popups on them since they don't earn anything.

With the extra tags,i thought those were required in a html file. The file isn't just a list, but its a cell including the background image, the two images (affiliates and links) and the actual links themselves. So i don't need all that other stuff. Wow.

I was at one site, i can't remember where but i was going through their source code and it said somewhere in there
<---menu---> was that a called file probably? it was on its own line. I don't know if they were just leaving a message for themselves so they wouldn't forget where its at or what.

Let me know and i really appreciate this guys.

p.s. I know i won't get rich, but your are right, i would like to get something going just so it will pay for hosting and stuff. nothing wrong with that.

Question regarding banners though. Do banners have any limitations on getting people to click them. With that allclicks link, i can't say, "Hey, please click this link so i can pay for this webspace" but with banners can i do something like that? I have seen alot of websites that include a spot up near their logo just for a banner.

thanks

bryan

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the <--menu--> part was probably just a comment for future editing reference

I know some banners used to (not sure if they still do) stated that your not allowed to actaully spam the banners, say things like "click my banner to help pay for my pets operation" etc but can have things like "please visit my sponsors links by clicking on their banners", not really sure, check out their TOS (terms of service).

I'd perfer to have sites use pop ups, at least that way they can be disabled Smiling with either a pop up killer, turning javascript off or turn the pop up option off in opera, with banners only turning javascript off will work (most of the time) but then it can ruin things like navigation etc.

I just took a peek at your site and am not sure if you have changed your included files or not but there is still two sets of extra html, head and body tags as well as two sets of /body, /html tags.

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well, i made some changes to this site, i did it to see what the source code would look like

gamecubecheats.net/index2.html

It still has the extra body tags. Are those not needed? I took out the HTML and Head tags

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This is what yoour code should look like and is the basic building block for all web pages. You don't need two sets of the html, head, title and body tags....ONLY one set. And by one set I mean an open tag, and a close tag,

Game Cheats

This is where you put
your tables and text and
images and other stuff.

The extras that you have are not needed. You can remove them. Just make sure you take out the correct ones.

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you need to take out the extra and tags - two of each, your layout should be:

meta tags and scripts, style sheets

contents

only one start and one end tag of each, and no nesting (swapping order) of these.

dont forget to change those small i's in your content

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I am sorry, but I still don't think you guys know what I am talking about. I am not putting those extra tags in there. The site is calling 2 separate html files (my menu's ) using ssi and when they do that, they include the html and head tags from those two files. I do not put those in there myself. I could paste the entire html code from what my index.html looks like before i upload it to the server, and you will see there are no extra tags in there. It is basically have 3 html files in 1 file, because its calling it. I hope that is clearing it up. Actually, i got an idea, i am going to paste the entire html of my index.html on a separate site so you can view it.

it will be at

http://www.gamecubecheats.net/sitehtml.html

give me about 5 min to complete the upload

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Well, I'll be a milkcow. Looks like you are right. But I don't know how the heck it it doing that. Got me stumped on this one.

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I mean, doesn't it look like i am doing it properly? I just create another html file like i normally would and then you just call that file. Maybe i will contact my host and ask them why it may be doing that.

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whats in the 2 included menu files?

remove all "html, head, title, /title, body, /body and /html" tags from these included files, even thou they have an html extensions (or shtml) they are a included section, not a included page if you know what i mean, you could name your included files text files if wanted as your only after the content of it, not the foundations of it.

I think your thinking of this method the way frames are done, its not the same

index.shtml:

menu2.shtml:
?
contents
?

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ahhhhh, all better. You can re check out the source now, no extra body, head, html files. Smiling Let me know if you see anything else goofy. Also, i fixed the menu problem. You can browse through some of the pages to tell me if it works for you.

thanks

bryan

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You know what. I just realized what makes the menu not centered in Opera. once i took out those extra tags, it centers itself, so not it looks good in all browsers:)

Just wondering, do you recommend that i alter my top logo so it adds in a spot to put a banner? Do you think that could be a benefit for my site.

just wondering

bryan

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you could put a content tag in your include file to align your contents so displays the same on all browsers

I think you may have to redesign your top section if you wish to place a banner in there. not sure if just moving would work

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Im sorry, i meant to say in my post before.

"NOW IT LOOKS GOOD IN ALL BROWSERS" not the word NOT.

sorry

no i believe it does look good in all of them already

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