left navigation menu very slow to load. do you really need that disclaimer on every page as well as linked at the top? also people might like it if you linked the photos to a larger view, somewhat hard to see features in a small picture. on home page where it says "remember FREE SHIPPING, id make all that text red, free shipping not just free.-Josh
forgot, does anyone have any suggestions on how I could speed up my navigation on the left side? Taking out the rollover isn't an option. If I have to go with a faster host then I'll have to just to save my nav bar.
ah actually i've just noticed that the writing is part of the image, probably should make this text and just have the arrows as images in a sererate table column, that would be much faster.
Could you please help us out and review some of the other sites posted here in the critique section as per the posting agreement.
The site design is quite nice and fresh but I somehow feel it's a bit cool (as in temperature) for a sunglass site. I think that it should have a warmer, sunnier feel maybe adding some orange colouring to the rollovers rather than the sandy colour.
The picture you have at the top reminds me more of dusk than a sunglasses day in the sun. Could you find a warmer picture?
At 800*600 you have a large horizontal scrollbar which appears to be because of your tables set up & possibly the Frontpage coding (which tends to be messy and could make the page slow). Also at 800*600 the layout of the main content section could use some rethinking as the first paragraph is all that you see and there is the blank space next to it which looks like there is something missing.
I don't actually think that you need the disclaimer on every page. Link to it on a seperate page but it looks like you are trying to spam the search engines with it by getting top brand names onto every page!
Good work in all
Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....
Quote: Originally posted by The Webmistress Could you please help us out and review some of the other sites posted here in the critique section as per the posting agreement.
Yes, this is a great website and I will be around here a lot.
The site design is quite nice and fresh but I somehow feel it's a bit cool (as in temperature) for a sunglass site. I think that it should have a warmer, sunnier feel maybe adding some orange coloring to the rollovers rather than the sandy color.
So maybe just brighten it up a bit?
The picture you have at the top reminds me more of dusk than a sunglasses day in the sun. Could you find a warmer picture?
I was a little comprehensive about using that flash movie at first. I searched around and that was the best I could find. If you have any ideas, please let me know.
At 800*600 you have a large horizontal scrollbar which appears to be because of your tables set up & possibly the FrontPage coding (which tends to be messy and could make the page slow). Also at 800*600 the layout of the main content section could use some rethinking as the first paragraph is all that you see and there is the blank space next to it which looks like there is something missing.
Is there a way to format the table so that it is flexible? So it doesn't force there to be a scrollbar? thanx
I don't actually think that you need the disclaimer on every page. Link to it on a separate page but it looks like you are trying to spam the search engines with it by getting top brand names onto every page!
Actually this is pretty necessary to cover my *ss. Yes, it looks like I’m spamming, but I'm not. At least that is not my intentions. If you go to any of my competitors sites, every single one of them does this.
I can't figure out how to prevent the table from pushing the blue vertical table on the right side of the page. Can someone check out my code and help me here?
WOW, that's alot of code for that page! The table problem is due to the forced size of the center portion of the page, which should probably be thinner anyway. There is too much white space on the right side, IMO.
Also, the left menu was slow to load for me too. I'm on T1. Davey's suggestion is definitely one to employ.
I like how you got the line to come down on the runner, that is cool. Nice site you have there. Good luck with it, and if you want to trade links i have a sunglass section on another one of my sites which is an on line shopping mall.
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You have a 200+ pixel horizontal scrollbar in IE and Opera at 800 X 600. Mozilla is way worse than that--about a 600 pixel horizontal scrollbar. OUCH!
The first thing that I recommend is remove the XHTML Strict Doctype, , from your code and replace it with either of the two below--probably the first one since you are using tables, font tags and front page.
Did you know what you have 75 extra closing font tags () in your code just below the disclaimer? :eek:
Really ronhollin, this code is a mess. I would say in your case, it would be easier to start from scratch than to try and go in a fix all that. I ran your site through the W3C Markup Validator and it sorta choked up after some 1200 plus errors and said, "Transmission Stopped!" :alien:
This link to Netmechanic will give you a good idea where your errors are for now. It is a direct link to where I sent your site through their validator with your results.
No I mean critique the look of the site. I'm not too concerned with the code or Mozilla browsers. At least at this point. There's 28 tags not 75. Yes the code is a mess, but at this point I don't have the time to "start from scratch". I'm no webmaster as you can tell. I'm just concerned with the way the site looks.
The images are nice but if things don't fit together properly (even in the worlds most forgiving browser, Internet Explorer) it sorta cancels out any "looks" that you may have...IMO.
Here are screenshots at 800 X 600 on Windows 2000.
See there, the code is just as important as the "look" of the site now isn't it?
I just had a thought.
Web design is kinda like a marriage. The graphics are the wife and the code is the husband. If the two don't work together you have a failed marriage or a failed website.
Hey that might be my next signature line.
I won't mention the other browsers since you aren't concerned with those. However, with a little work, the site could look good for all. Maybe not exactly the same.... but good.
I was getting the same results in my browsers as well. Glad it's getting resolved.
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jha2297255 posted this at 01:33 — 4th April 2003.
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left navigation menu very slow to load. do you really need that disclaimer on every page as well as linked at the top? also people might like it if you linked the photos to a larger view, somewhat hard to see features in a small picture. on home page where it says "remember FREE SHIPPING, id make all that text red, free shipping not just free.-Josh
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ronhollin posted this at 01:48 — 4th April 2003.
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ronhollin posted this at 01:49 — 4th April 2003.
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forgot, does anyone have any suggestions on how I could speed up my navigation on the left side? Taking out the rollover isn't an option. If I have to go with a faster host then I'll have to just to save my nav bar.
thanx
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DaveyBoy posted this at 02:11 — 4th April 2003.
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Well it loads instantly on cable.
What i think the problem is though, is that you have a different image file for each option, all you need really is one selected and one unselected.
First Link
When its a different link, simply change the image title :
Second Link
etc...
Hope this helps, it should speed up your nav!
ronhollin posted this at 02:19 — 4th April 2003.
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really? I'm on DSL and it's sort of slow. DaveyBoyt, you wouldn't happen to live in the South somewhere?
DaveyBoy posted this at 02:21 — 4th April 2003.
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Nah i live in England mate, i edited my post above with a possible solution if you wanna try it?
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ah actually i've just noticed that the writing is part of the image, probably should make this text and just have the arrows as images in a sererate table column, that would be much faster.
ronhollin posted this at 05:26 — 4th April 2003.
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Yes, very good idea. I'll look into changing that
thanx
The Webmistress posted this at 08:40 — 4th April 2003.
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Welcoem to TWF ronhollin,
Could you please help us out and review some of the other sites posted here in the critique section as per the posting agreement.
The site design is quite nice and fresh but I somehow feel it's a bit cool (as in temperature) for a sunglass site. I think that it should have a warmer, sunnier feel maybe adding some orange colouring to the rollovers rather than the sandy colour.
The picture you have at the top reminds me more of dusk than a sunglasses day in the sun. Could you find a warmer picture?
At 800*600 you have a large horizontal scrollbar which appears to be because of your tables set up & possibly the Frontpage coding (which tends to be messy and could make the page slow). Also at 800*600 the layout of the main content section could use some rethinking as the first paragraph is all that you see and there is the blank space next to it which looks like there is something missing.
I don't actually think that you need the disclaimer on every page. Link to it on a seperate page but it looks like you are trying to spam the search engines with it by getting top brand names onto every page!
Good work in all
Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....
ronhollin posted this at 15:29 — 4th April 2003.
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DaveyBoy posted this at 16:31 — 4th April 2003.
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to stop getting an horizontal scrollbar, use relative (%) table widths instead of absolute (px) widths.
ronhollin posted this at 17:19 — 4th April 2003.
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I can't figure out how to prevent the table from pushing the blue vertical table on the right side of the page.
Can someone check out my code and help me here?
thanx
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Jimmy Changa posted this at 19:56 — 4th April 2003.
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WOW, that's alot of code for that page! The table problem is due to the forced size of the center portion of the page, which should probably be thinner anyway. There is too much white space on the right side, IMO.
Also, the left menu was slow to load for me too. I'm on T1.
Davey's suggestion is definitely one to employ. 
Frontpage is tricky to get good code out of:
'nuff said
ronhollin posted this at 00:36 — 5th April 2003.
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I wouldn't even know where to start with optimizing my site. Any suggestions?
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Busy posted this at 23:33 — 5th April 2003.
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Could you please help us out and review some of the other sites posted here in the critique section as per the posting agreement, Thanks.
KMTS posted this at 16:34 — 7th April 2003.
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I like how you got the line to come down on the runner, that is cool. Nice site you have there. Good luck with it, and if you want to trade links i have a sunglass section on another one of my sites which is an on line shopping mall.
Kathleen
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[email protected]
ronhollin posted this at 17:11 — 6th May 2003.
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Can you guys look at our site. We have been improving it over time. Site is in my signature.
The Webmistress posted this at 17:14 — 6th May 2003.
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I have merged your new request with the existing thread on the site so that people can refer back. I'll have a look at the site tomorrow
ronhollin posted this at 17:15 — 6th May 2003.
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Ok thanks
ronhollin posted this at 19:09 — 25th May 2003.
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Ok, we have done some redesign work on our site. We're looking for some feedback.
thanks
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You have a 200+ pixel horizontal scrollbar in IE and Opera at 800 X 600. Mozilla is way worse than that--about a 600 pixel horizontal scrollbar. OUCH!
The first thing that I recommend is remove the XHTML Strict Doctype, , from your code and replace it with either of the two below--probably the first one since you are using tables, font tags and front page.
Did you know what you have 75 extra closing font tags () in your code just below the disclaimer? :eek:
Really ronhollin, this code is a mess. I would say in your case, it would be easier to start from scratch than to try and go in a fix all that. I ran your site through the W3C Markup Validator and it sorta choked up after some 1200 plus errors and said, "Transmission Stopped!" :alien:
This link to Netmechanic will give you a good idea where your errors are for now. It is a direct link to where I sent your site through their validator with your results.
Good luck.
ronhollin posted this at 22:25 — 25th May 2003.
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No I mean critique the look of the site. I'm not too concerned with the code or Mozilla browsers. At least at this point. There's 28 tags not 75. Yes the code is a mess, but at this point I don't have the time to "start from scratch". I'm no webmaster as you can tell. I'm just concerned with the way the site looks.
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disaster-master posted this at 00:14 — 26th May 2003.
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The images are nice but if things don't fit together properly (even in the worlds most forgiving browser, Internet Explorer) it sorta cancels out any "looks" that you may have...IMO.
Here are screenshots at 800 X 600 on Windows 2000.
Internet Explorer
Opera
Mozilla
ronhollin posted this at 05:40 — 26th May 2003.
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I'm not sure which IE your using to get that screen shot, but in MY IE it doesn't look like that.
disaster-master posted this at 05:53 — 26th May 2003.
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IE 6.0
Opera 6.05
Mozilla 1.2.1
Alright SOMEBODY!!
I am almost convinced that I am an idiot. Anyone else see what I see in the screen shots that I posted above or is my computer an alien?
ronhollin posted this at 05:57 — 26th May 2003.
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I do see what you see in the screen shots, but why do i not see that same screen when I view my site via my IE browser?
ronhollin posted this at 06:04 — 26th May 2003.
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Sorry disaster-master. You are right. It was messed up. I apologize. Ok check it out now. The table was set the 712 px and not 100%.
disaster-master posted this at 06:32 — 26th May 2003.
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Much better!
(in internet explorer)
See there, the code is just as important as the "look" of the site now isn't it?
I just had a thought.
Web design is kinda like a marriage. The graphics are the wife and the code is the husband. If the two don't work together you have a failed marriage or a failed website.
Hey that might be my next signature line.
I won't mention the other browsers since you aren't concerned with those. However, with a little work, the site could look good for all. Maybe not exactly the same.... but good.
Suzanne posted this at 17:27 — 26th May 2003.
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I was getting the same results in my browsers as well. Glad it's getting resolved.
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