REQUEST REVIEW: tupacpalace.cjb.net

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Very nice site. You have consistent layout, good use of colors in my opinion, nice images and have obviously taken a great deal of time and care building this site.

I did notice several spelling errors (drivers licenSe, recEIved --i before e except after c--:D There were several more but that isn't a biggie. Noting a spell check can't take care of.

I would add a mouseover to your links. That would be a nice effect. Other than those few things I think it is very nice tribute to Tupac. I am not a fan of his but you have yourself a pretty good site.

Oh and welcome to the forum.:wave:

Thank you very much for your comments. I'll be sure to fix those typos next time I update and I was also thinking about just adding a simple css style "a:hover { text-decoration: none}" next time i re-design the site. Thanks again!

I would really like to see more of an artistic (as opposed to functional) layout here. It's not bad but it's kind of...well... typical. The splash page sets a really nice feel for the site and it would be nice if that was carried more into the rest of the site. Sort of a stark, dark look. It feels lonely almost. The main page, on the other hand, has that bright red, and all those ad buttons - its much more active looking and very similar to the layout I've seen on a lot of other sites (namely video game sites actually).

I would probably streamline this a lot, cut your navigation options down into a few categores, get rid of all the junk, and go with a stark black-and-white look that you've used on the splash.

i never really looked at it from that point of view but i think ur right, goes too much from a tribute to a celebration with just one click. your critiscm has been noted!

ohhh one other thing...would i be right in saying u should always stick to 3 consistent colors, when working on a layout?

I most cases, yes. Of course, there are always excpetions but I would say that's a good rule of thumb.

It's got potential. If you wanna pack more of a punch, check out http://www.badboyonline.com/

TonyMontana
aka MethodAir
http://www.electricmountain.com/home.htm

first up, nice image on splash page, but why have best viewed with IE v5 up? it displays on NS4.7 and Opera6 just have to turn table borders off to make it look good, they dont do anything in IE anyways, bordercolor="#333333" is more or less black, bordercolor is an IE tag so appears in opera6 same as NS4.7 - with table borders. otherwise your cutting off at least 2/3 of viewers (NS and Opera)

I agree with Megan on the flow thing, that big red banner is very big and red, a totally different look to your splash page

I also notice your content section is different sizes, the main page at 800x600 has the "mian, site mission, about etc" on two lines (chat is on second line) but when i checked a few pages it was on one line.

This site is great . You had a guy that listens to ballroom music and country records running around reading all about Tupak. Tons of info there well presented. The only thing I would change is somber the colors down on main page. Dont know if there is an effect like leave the same colors but put a fine mist of grey spraypaint effect over the top ( tone it down a little and tie it into the grey links to all the info maybe) The main page with that effect would only enhance the feeling of walking in a dark hallway with a neon fire escape sign showing some light at the end. Thats the take or feel I get on it and I like it alot. joenov

ok just a couple of things...first up busy 2/3 of viewers arent netscape and opera i'd say atleast 70% of web surfers use I.E. as for badboy online it would be a good site if they werent all a bunch of phonies and fakes. but thanks everyone for ur commentss i'll take em all on board next time i re-design.

the percentage of what browser people use isnt really the issue, rather it's that you could be loosing potiental visitors, I'm just trying to help gain you more visitors by pointing this out.

Since Opera6 was released, all stat tracking might as well be thrown out the window - its useless, Opera6 is downloaded with IE set as its default identifier (have no idea why), a lot of people probably wont even bother to switch or even now to look for it, so what stat tracking displays as IE could very well be Opera - and they do display differently.

Very nice site. I agree with what has been said about the change of image from first page to main pages but I think the more sombre look would suit better on the content pages if there was less content on each page. Adding a hove colour to the links will be better as they look like they 'should' do it. I would definitely say to get rid of the "Best viewed....." as it just makes it sound like you couldn't be bothered to make a site for all to see.

hmmm i never knew Opera showed up as IE thanks for pointing that out.

oh and the "Best viewed using I.E 5" comment...I'm gonna leave it there cause its just a simple fact all sites are better viewed using Internet Explorer I cant see why anyone would bother using Netscape

But it's a fact of life that they do use NS and there are a lot of people who use old versions of it. IE really isn't the bee all & end all of browsers and many people are now coming to realise that and given time I think that the likes of Opera will actually take over from IE as top dog!

Quote: Originally posted by Busy
Since Opera6 was released, all stat tracking might as well be thrown out the window - its useless, Opera6 is downloaded with IE set as its default identifier (have no idea why),

It's because browser detection scripts often detect by appname and not by object. So what happens if someone has a detection script based on NS vs. IE only? Another problem is those annoying warning screens that sometimes come up when the site doesn't like your browser (because they only support IE & NS... blah blah blah.... you're lazy.) Hotmail does this. It's just a protection against scripting exclusiveness.

hotmail has never done that to me im not sure i know what ur on about...and who is lazy?

Really ???? When you use Opera with identify set to Opera, and log into hotmail, you don't get a screen that says "Your Current Web Browsing Software Will Limit Your Ability to Use Hotmail...."???? Weird! I think this happened to me with mozilla too....

When I said "lazy" I meant lazy developers who can't be bothered to do a comprehensive range of cross-browser testing. Most of the time it isn't a problem - it's just that people haven't tested their sites and don't want to support another browser. I just continue past that "browser limitation" screen at hotmail, using Opera, and have no problems. Maybe "lazy" isn't the right word...(I wasn't entirely serious about that BTW)... Opera isn't really a high profile browser and I imagine a lot of people just don't realize that it's there (especially when it defaults to identify as MSIE). You could say "ignorance" instead...,

Ha ha, that screen also says that I should "upgrade" my browser.... they just don't get it. They link to IE 5, which would certainly be a downgrade from Opera 6.

I'm another one who agrees on what The Webmistress said, and since Microsoft has been told to halt all future updates so they can fix all the bugs and security issues in the previous versions, plus the effects of this big court battle (hopefully ending soon) will see microsofts ranking drop, my predictions for the future - Opera becomes most successful browser, followed by Netscape (wish it was the other way round), then either Microsoft or something else.
Microsoft tried to get to big to fast with to many things, now its come back and bit them in the butt.
and other things like microsoft not giving away word, excel etc has hurt them, now you can get software, for free from Sun Microsystems called star office 5.2 which is meant to be bigger and better than what you pay $1200 for, star office evn comes with fully fledge 3d vector drawing program and somethig similar to outlook, so once this court case finishs and they decide PC makers can put other operating systems on PC's apart from Microsoft you'll see Microsofts fan club dropping like flies, people already know there are bigger and better programs than what Microsoft set you up with.
do I dislike Microsoft - nope, actually I'm using IE now
but this is getting way off topic - sorry.

MSN doesnt use a "best viewed with" statement (even thou they do have pop ups like Megan has mentioned), nor does Netscape or Opera or any of the big boys

"may his memory live on for ever" - I'm guessing you mean "forever" - just another example of the futility of relying on an electronic spellchecker to produce clean copy

because I try not to support criminal enterprises that seriously damage the world economy, I only use IE to test displays

:bunny:

"because I try not to support criminal enterprises that seriously damage the world economy, I only use IE to test displays" i dont get it

Quote: i dont get it

neither does Billy

hey all after the many comments i got on the site, i've done a re-design, only the home page has been done so none of the links work yet.
u can check out the old design here > http://www.members.dodo.net.au/tupac/index2.html
and the new one here > http://hosted.barrysworld.net/tupacpalace/index.htm

let me know what u think, thanks!

sorry first link was wrong, gotta remove the w's > http://members.dodo.net.au/tupac/index2.html

not sure if its me or what but both pages were very slow to load.

I actually like the old one better, the new one is to blue, to bright

the clock/date doesnt display in Opera6, and the table borders dont display in NS4.7 (clock does)

btw you can click edit on your posts and change the links etc if you wish instead of posting another post

well im sick of trying to figure out how to get borders to display proply in netscape

I too prefer the old one, colours seem to be more appropriate.

I like the old one better too. Everything seems to sort of run together in the blue version.

I think I like the index2 better, but it would look better without any yellow and just red (and black and gray), and even the red could look better if it was more opaque like in the word that say "Poll" that'd be awesome... maybe the fonts could be darker so it doesn't look so complicated

hi,
I have just done a re-design of my Tupac site, think I've finally got it right this time (this is the 4th layout). the address is http://www.tupacpalace.ionichost.com/index.htm

I have merged this posting into the previous thread so that people can refer back to it. The blue on black and black on blue on this new one is too hard to read, although the layout is good (IE5). I'm also not sure about the font used on the links 'home :: news :: etc' it looks a bit blurry and could maybe use a rollover, also the box around it looks like it should be more to the right so that the gap is even to that top & bottom.

i can read the blue...how old are u? and the gap looks even to me

Personally, I liked the old one with the red, dark gray and black. The logo on that one was much more interesting than the one you have now as well. This one seems a bit drab compaired to your old one.

Age hasn't got anything to do with it, dark blue text on a black background and vice versa is hard to read! This is ho the box round the links looks and it's not evenly spaced.

how is that not evenly spaced?

I believe what she means is there is about a 5 pixel space between the black line surrounding your links and the right side of the page. And the space on the top and bottom of the line around your links is about 2 pixels.

Yes, exactly what I mean. Probably me being picky but that kind of thing bugs me!

ahhh i get ya! its like that cause im not a big fan of non-breaking spaces.