Please, review this site!

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Hi!

For about ½ years I've been developing the largest finnish webprogramming website. Currently it has about 6 000 monhtly visitors, but I'm thinking on going global (== making english version)to gain more visitors.

The site relies heavily on CSS1 & 2, so it is designed to work only with ie5.x, opera4.x, netscape6, mozilla 0.6 or any newer browser. It should degrade nicely with older browsers.

What I want to know is:
a) how does the site load abroad (slow, fast...)
b) Your opinions about the outlook (terrible, simple, nice etc. why?)
c) Is it worth translating the site in english ?

The url is on the signature, so please check it out. A big Thank's for all who rewiev this site!

2K mediat

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Welcome aboard 2K mediat.com,

We do ask that you help us out by reviewing at least three other's sites before requesting a critique of your own site. This not only helps us out but gives you ideas for your own site and an idea of what people pick up on!

I'll have a look at your site in a bit for you.

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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I did not notice the "obligation" of reviewing 3 other site. Aniway... I just spent some fun time surfing the web & looking some of the sites asking for critique.

It's kind of nice to see how much the american & european design differ from each other...

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I'll do my best considering that I dont' know finnish!

Overall this site looks very good. I really like the way the yellow toned photos contrast with the dark blue at the top - maybe you could change the yellow headers on the right and the orange part at the bottom to be more of a richer brighter yellow. Maybe try to include that colour in your logo too.

The other major problem here, I think, is the navigation. It's just too disorganized the way you have it up there. I think it really would be best to use a left side menu, with your options divided into various categories. That would make it much easier for people to find what they're looking for. This would also allow you to fix the layout so that it's either flexible or fixed - now the header & navigation part are flexing but the content area is fixed.

I clicked on the CSS page and I'm seeing the introduction of a couple of new colours. YOu should refine your colour scheme just a bit. Stick to dark blue, bright yellow, and one other colour.

I really like the way you've set up the home page - nice arrangement of headers, photos, and text.

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I agree with Megan about the navigation and fixing the tables. I do like the general layout though apart from that. Although the three buttons at the bottom look a bit odd as they aren't all the same size and look a wee bit like an after thought.

It looks like you have some good content here and with a small amount of tweaking I'd say it'd make a very good site when I can understand it Wink

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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Hi,

Welcome to TWF. Your site looks very good, despite me not understanding a word on it. Smiling

Thoughts:

  • The three orange buttons at the bottom need to be the same sizes, the latest is not as wide as the other two.
  • The navigation bar at the top is nice, but one link doesn't fit and goes to the next line - would look better if you fit them all on one line or made three shorter lines of links.
  • Definitely translate it into English!

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Thanks for all of your opinions. Keep 'em coming...

The three orange buttons are a "relic" from the "customize appearance" functionality (there are two looks, from which the user can select his/her favourite). They ought to be transparent gif's, but I haven't yet found the time to deal with the issue. But it's on the fixlist.

As it goes for the navigation bar, the amount of links is a problem. I have some plans of making the navigation a bit more easier, but making "a ship this big" turn is a hell of a job.

>>>Definitely translate it into English!
It's an my schedule. Visit same time next year & you will love it Wink

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I think the site is generally good, and only needs to be tidied up a bit in the areas mentioned above.

I know what you mean about trying to change the course of a large vessel! I am constantly grappling with that very task.

I dare not ask for a critique of my site yet because I know it needs very much-alot-heaps-loads of work, in several of the areas mentioned in this post. It is, to be honest, a site made of continual add-ons, rather than being built to a carefully considered overall design.

The more I learn about programming, the more I realise the importance of everything that comes BEFORE the programming!

Sometimes you just wish you could start again.

Go you good things!

Cheers!

Guy Hopkins

The more you learn the more you know how much there is you don't know.

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My overall opinion of this site is t´hat it seems good.

A couple of problems though.

Firstly, the navigation at the top. It took me a while before I actually found it: Your links goes like this:

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Where I think it would be easyer to notice if you did it the other way

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since thats the way its normally done.

Also, about those links... They should somehow be ordered into groups... Maybe a java menu would be the best option for you!?

Besides this, I think that it is all covered.

Good luck translating it!

~casper
secretsofwar.net

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Only comment I can add is that is a quick loading site on dial-up at peak time in Australia. Smiling

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A quick loading site from california

The table at the top is browser wide, while the rest of the page loads about 65 percent from left.

The navigation definitely needs to be organized. Possibly logical grouping, or drop down list menuing. Dhtml? Something has just got to be done with that!

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k

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I have to agree with others, the link system at the top does seem very confusing at first glance. The site loads real quick on a 56k modem, which is a blessing as I hate sites that force you to make a coffee whil you wait for it to load Smiling

I like the layout of the front page, nice & clean...its just the links I'd sort out...

I'd be v. interested in the site once it is in English as I think I'll add it to my database of web resources...

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I agree, if it was in English I would check it out also. Looks extensive.

Possibly you have a mailing list you could put those that are interested in the site on? I would want to be on the mailing list to know when the site is in english.

[email protected] , the address THAT LOVES spam.

K

I give your site:
4 yorkies

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...there really seems to be some real interest towards the site and its content. I really must start making the site in english as soon as i have some extra time (now I'm finishing an free ASP based board application along with other site management tools). Most likely the very first english oriented pages will be download/faq/support pages for the board sometime early next month.

about navigation...I'm working on it. Dhtml and other hokey-pokey-stuff have never really hit me, allthouht they are a generally a good way of making things compact. Flash is a one solution, but it doesn't seem to be that popular. Most likely I'm goint to make some sort of flattening or division in navigation.

As it goes for mailing-list, the site currently has one, but only for finnish readers. But I'll promise to announce here when the site has some real content in english...

Cheers folks Smiling

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Just line up the links at the top better and you're good to go.

I'm still debating on the yellow background color for the text boxes, but it seems to be your theme so I won't say much. Smiling

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