Please review our site www.sothink.com

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

We redesigned our site sothink.com.
Please tell me know what you think of it.
All comments are appreciated.

demonhale's picture

He has: 3,278 posts

Joined: May 2005

FIrst off loading time is quite lengthy on dial-up, fairly modest on cable, looks really ok, the site nav is appropriate, color scheme is pretty much ok too... My quirks are you have too many boxes with info inside of them that I cant decide where to start... Texts also are a quite small for a site that needs a little reading... Thats all at the moment.

robfenn's picture

He has: 471 posts

Joined: Jun 2005

I think it's a nice looking site, well done.

He has: 698 posts

Joined: Jul 2005

The blue background of the page is a bit intense to me. The text size is small, especially for all the text there is. (like demonhale said) It all seems to blend together and it's hard on the eyes. Maybe try to cut down on the amount of text on the front page and make it larger. Wink

Kurtis

He has: 1 posts

Joined: Oct 2005

I like the theme, generally. I also agree that the text could be bigger. At least the link text should be a couple points higher.

Also, there's nothing that IMMEDIATELY draws the eye, other than the header image. I'de focus on what you reall want users to navigate towards first, and then put some more emphasis on that.

But it does look good, overall!

Jon

They have: 14 posts

Joined: Oct 2005

Wow very nice site with good layout and proper fixes. Some of my comments:

1) Fonts are very small please increase the size little bit.
2) Change the blue background to white or else make it lighter.
3) Sub section titles can be left aligned for ex: "Sothink Templates", "Products", "Company News" etc. to make it more attractive.
4) Top navigation bar above the logo, should be little bit brighter. It is not visible clearly.

That’s it for now, good work!

Looking for a deal? Visit: www.DealDebate.com

He has: 30 posts

Joined: Sep 2005

First off, you have two sections for news, Company News and Latest News. You could probably get rid of one, or maybe even both. The Specials section should be near the top of the page, people love deals, so make this a strong point! I think the design is good, but there is too much text. I like the header, but it is a bit boring, maybe spice it up with a little flash. Since you probably have global traffic, you might consider having different languages available, so you don't lose any potential sales. In the links on the header, maybe put a pipe " | " in between the links without drop down menus(Home | Products...Purchase | Support...).

Otherwise, nice, clean, functional site!

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Hi,

Thanks for everybody's reviews.

Really good points. We will probably take your advice to improve the site. Wink

Megan's picture

She has: 11,421 posts

Joined: Jun 1999

Looks good overall. Others have made good points about what the eye is drawn to, the size of the text, and highlighting the specials. In general I think there is too much going on here. It's hard to get an immediate clear idea of what this company has to offer. The small font size doesn't help ther either.

I think the products section should have more visual weight. Maybe you could try to get this into two columns rather than three, or use a big section at the top for the products and keep the other stuff towards the bottom. The news sections should be conbined, and should also take up a lot less space (because who cares really?). Templates could be moved in with the products, and specialis highlighted with one graphic or coloured box rather than stuck down at the bottom. " Payable in US Dollars(USD) or Euros(EUR)" is not a special, so you could really make your one special a lot bigger and give it more impact.

The product names could be reworded to give a better idea of what the product is. "Sothink Glanda" means nothign to me - I have to read the descirption to find out what it is. If it was "Glanda Multimeda Album" I would know right away what it is. The "more products" link should have more prominence as well - I didn't realize there was more here until I tried the drop-down menu.

The other thing I have a problem with is the little utility menu in the upper-right corner. Those buttons are almost impossible to read. Much too small and low contrast. I don't think any of those items are really necessary either, so either get rid of that or reconsider what is on it. Site map should definitely be there, and possible a search.

On the secondary pages I'm getting some weird things oging on with the subnavigation in Opera 8.0. There are weird stripey backgrounds on the main items, and a white line down the middle of the header. I think having the fly-out menu at this level is overkill, although it does show off what your product can do.

This page has a list of features with arrows as bullets that is not formatted as an actual list. Try using CSS to set the bullet in a proper list to an image. This will format the list properly and make it easier to read.

I am on the SWF decompiler page and I'm starting to get confused now. The five demo graphics are confusing to me - I don't udnerstand why they have a "download" link - at first I thought it was "view download" not "view" "download" separately. So I start the first one. There is a pop-up text block theere that doesn't make sense to me Confused "Right click the movie, I also can't find any information" ??? WHAT????? It makes a little more sense when you follow through but all of the text boxes are really confusing. It reads like it's been translated from another language by one of those automatic translator things.

Overall this site is very well done. The logo graphic and overall layout is very professional - slightly boring, but professional. If you wanted to give this more punch you could switch to a higher impact colour scheme. I'm finding more and more problems as I drill down into the site - more attention should be given to those demos and other information at that level.

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Megan wrote: Looks good overall. Others have made good points about what the eye is drawn to, the size of the text, and highlighting the specials. In general I think there is too much going on here. It's hard to get an immediate clear idea of what this company has to offer. The small font size doesn't help ther either.

Hi Megan,

Thanks very much for your comprehensive review. Smiling Lots of users reported us the small font size issue, so we are changing it now.

Quote: I think the products section should have more visual weight. Maybe you could try to get this into two columns rather than three, or use a big section at the top for the products and keep the other stuff towards the bottom. The news sections should be conbined, and should also take up a lot less space (because who cares really?). Templates could be moved in with the products, and specialis highlighted with one graphic or coloured box rather than stuck down at the bottom. " Payable in US Dollars(USD) or Euros(EUR)" is not a special, so you could really make your one special a lot bigger and give it more impact.

Good suggestion. We are thinking to reduce the size of the news section, maybe put it in the bottom right section, and move other info important to the top right of the third section.

Quote: The other thing I have a problem with is the little utility menu in the upper-right corner. Those buttons are almost impossible to read. Much too small and low contrast. I don't think any of those items are really necessary either, so either get rid of that or reconsider what is on it. Site map should definitely be there, and possible a search.

We have the same idea with you. The upper-rignt menu will be optimized too.

Quote: On the secondary pages I'm getting some weird things oging on with the subnavigation in Opera 8.0. There are weird stripey backgrounds on the main items, and a white line down the middle of the header. I think having the fly-out menu at this level is overkill, although it does show off what your product can do.

Acutally, before the release of the new site, we've done a full test of the site in all browsers, even Opera 8.0, however, we did not met the problem you described. Would you please show me a screenshot of the problem? It will help us check the problem. Thanks!

Quote: This page has a list of features with arrows as bullets that is not formatted as an actual list. Try using CSS to set the bullet in a proper list to an image. This will format the list properly and make it easier to read.

Yes, the arrows did not format the list well. We will optimize it.

Quote: I am on the SWF decompiler page and I'm starting to get confused now. The five demo graphics are confusing to me - I don't udnerstand why they have a "download" link - at first I thought it was "view download" not "view" "download" separately. So I start the first one. There is a pop-up text block theere that doesn't make sense to me Confused "Right click the movie, I also can't find any information" ??? WHAT????? It makes a little more sense when you follow through but all of the text boxes are really confusing. It reads like it's been translated from another language by one of those automatic translator things.

The five graphics are the features demonstration of SWF Decompiler. The download link is to let users download those presentations so that they can see it locally without online because the presentations are someting like tutorials as well. They will be open in a new window. If your browser blocks popup window, you will not see them.
Before you read those text boxes, I think you should have a general idea of the program SWF Decompiler, download the trial and evaluate it first. Then you will know what it is talking about maybe. Wink

Quote: Overall this site is very well done. The logo graphic and overall layout is very professional - slightly boring, but professional. If you wanted to give this more punch you could switch to a higher impact colour scheme. I'm finding more and more problems as I drill down into the site - more attention should be given to those demos and other information at that level.

Thanks again for your review, which really helps.

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

Megan's picture

She has: 11,421 posts

Joined: Jun 1999

Sothink wrote: The five graphics are the features demonstration of SWF Decompiler. The download link is to let users download those presentations so that they can see it locally without online because the presentations are someting like tutorials as well. They will be open in a new window. If your browser blocks popup window, you will not see them.
Before you read those text boxes, I think you should have a general idea of the program SWF Decompiler, download the trial and evaluate it first. Then you will know what it is talking about maybe. Wink

If you had to explain that to me, what are your users thinking? That is my point here - it's a usability problem that could have a significant affect on sales. This is the make it or break it point in terms of making the sale - you don't want users to be confused. The meaning of the "download" link is a good example. Any elements of confusion on your site could lead the user to believe that the same will be true in the actual software.

Just clicked randomly on one of those demo links and found this: "Following the tutorial to learn importing the Flash in detail". So if you can't write coherent instructions on your site, then what is in the actual software? You've just lost a sale. Examples of this are all over the place - in the product demos and in the bulleted lists of product features.

Actually, my browser does block pop-ups and I did not have a problem with that. But again - what if the user is using a different browser and when they click on a link nothing happens? You've just lost another sale.

Here is a screenshot of the menu in my browser:

http://admmail.uwaterloo.ca/~mjjack/sothink.jpg

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Megan wrote: If you had to explain that to me, what are your users thinking? That is my point here - it's a usability problem that could have a significant affect on sales. This is the make it or break it point in terms of making the sale - you don't want users to be confused. The meaning of the "download" link is a good example. Any elements of confusion on your site could lead the user to believe that the same will be true in the actual software.

Just clicked randomly on one of those demo links and found this: "Following the tutorial to learn importing the Flash in detail". So if you can't write coherent instructions on your site, then what is in the actual software? You've just lost a sale. Examples of this are all over the place - in the product demos and in the bulleted lists of product features.

Hi Megan,

Yes, you are right. We will try our best to improve them.
Would you please point me out the places where you think confused? It is really appreciated.

Quote:

Here is a screenshot of the menu in my browser:

http://admmail.uwaterloo.ca/~mjjack/sothink.jpg

Thanks for the screenshot. Did you mean you see a static stripey backgrounds on the main items in Opera 8.0? Actually, the background images are animated. We checked our site in Opera 8.02 and found no problem in stead.

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

They have: 5 posts

Joined: Oct 2003

Nice site but a little to bright for me.

Megan's picture

She has: 11,421 posts

Joined: Jun 1999

Oooohh, that's because I have animated gif's disabled! I see. Those are really odd looking though. Having animation there is just distracting from the text and making it harder to get where I want to go.

Anyway - I might look at the other stuff when I have time. Can't guarantee that I will (busy!). Are you not a native english speaker? Looks to me like you just need to have those demo things edited by someone who is.

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

No, we are not. Sad

Thanks very much for all your helps.

demonhale's picture

He has: 3,278 posts

Joined: May 2005

So what is your native language then?

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Hi everybody,

Happy Halloween!

It is a halloween card from Sothink. Hope you all will enjoy it. :aparty: :roll:

http://www.sothink.com/community/sothinkzine/october2005/halloweencard.htm

greetings,

Sothink

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Hi Everybody,

We have another problem to bother you all again.

Would you please give me some feedback or suggestions on the page that sells Flash or html templates?
http://www.sothink.com/product/template/index.htm

Do you like those templates in the view of those who needs templates not designers, because I know designers hate templates. How do you think of the price, high, medium or low?

All comments or advice are welcome!

Thank you all!

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Hi Roo,

Actually, we are a reseller of a4flash.com. Most of the templates are chosen from them. The prices are set by them as well.

For the price problem, yes, the designer may think it is way too low, but the user may think it is too high. Everyting has too sides, right?

If others can vote for the animation, that will be great!
Personally, I do not like it either.

P.S. The girl in your avatar is really beautiful.

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Really?
I had thought it is a 3D girl.

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Chinese! Laughing out loud

They have: 4 posts

Joined: Oct 2005

This site is exactly what I call a professionnal looking website.
Obviously you have a lot to offer which can confuse visitors, you should organize the product presentation a little bit better. Added to that is the fact that Company news are taking a lot of room.
Also I find the navigation bar a bit small, expanding the font size there would be a +.
Overall, I like it, I would love to have a good looking website like this but maybe a bit more imaginative. People must have seen website presented the same a lot of time.

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

guigr wrote: This site is exactly what I call a professionnal looking website.
Obviously you have a lot to offer which can confuse visitors, you should organize the product presentation a little bit better. Added to that is the fact that Company news are taking a lot of room.
Also I find the navigation bar a bit small, expanding the font size there would be a +.
Overall, I like it, I would love to have a good looking website like this but maybe a bit more imaginative. People must have seen website presented the same a lot of time.

Thanks for your comments. Yes, we feel the company news section is taking a lot of room, so we are reducing it now.
Do you have any idea of how to organize the product presentation better? It is really appreciated.

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

popinsiteads's picture

He has: 51 posts

Joined: Sep 2005

looks professional enough. is all the software yours?

is that your shopping cart, if not, please let me know where you got it from (pm me)

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

popinsiteads wrote: looks professional enough. is all the software yours?

is that your shopping cart, if not, please let me know where you got it from (pm me)

Yes, all the software is ours, as well as the shopping cart. Wink

locatepeople wrote: yeah nice enugh site. like the last people I think it is abit croweded. putting a sperate page for every service, etc will help you acheive better keyword density and make ti easier for visitors to focus on a topic.

I liked it alot though Wink

Yes, we put every product in a separate page, and optimized the keyword for each product actually.

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

He has: 377 posts

Joined: May 2005

yeah nice enugh site. like the last people I think it is abit croweded. putting a sperate page for every service, etc will help you acheive better keyword density and make ti easier for visitors to focus on a topic.

I liked it alot though Wink

Roo's picture

She has: 840 posts

Joined: Apr 1999

I have only onecomplaints:

The header is kind of bland.

Everthing below that header is very well done, so I'd like to see a header with more strength...more pop...more wow.

*Edited* The animation I was complaining about was on the dhtml menu page...

Roo

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

Roo wrote: I have only onecomplaints:

The header is kind of bland.

Everthing below that header is very well done, so I'd like to see a header with more strength...more pop...more wow.

*Edited* The animation I was complaining about was on the dhtml menu page...

Thanks Roo. Yes, we will update the header.

As for the animation on the leftnav bar, I want to know how many people there do not like it. Please vote. Thanks all!

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

demonhale's picture

He has: 3,278 posts

Joined: May 2005

Looks Ok to me, although I feel that the page also came from a template... some minor adjustments for that template page will do the trick...

Roo's picture

She has: 840 posts

Joined: Apr 1999

The animated navbar to me is very very annoying. Your content is excellent and I have bookmarked the site. I'm thinking some of those tools you have for sale could be very useful.

Roo

Roo's picture

She has: 840 posts

Joined: Apr 1999

BTW....Kudos for including the US dollar amount. I really hate it when I buy from places across the pond that don't bother to let me know what the conversion amount it. You've done well to consider the end user with this, and also with the examples that show what everything is/does.

Roo

Roo's picture

She has: 840 posts

Joined: Apr 1999

The templates are nice for those who choose to use pre-designed templates, but the prices are waaaaaaaay too low.

I just don't get how template makers can put all of that work into something and basically give it away. I'm not a fan of templates, but in all fairness I can see that a lot of graphical work goes into them. I wouldn't even boot up for what you are charging for those layouts. Don't sell yourself (and the rest of the design industry) short!

Roo

Roo's picture

She has: 840 posts

Joined: Apr 1999

LOL..the 'girl' in my avater is me about three years ago...before lots of gray hair, bi-focals, and middle aged spread.

They have: 31 posts

Joined: Nov 2005

Hi,

Cool templatey look you got going there.

As others might have pointed out, you have too much going on at one place what with the small font and everything

I would recommend expanding the width of the page and increasing font, that way you could fit all your info in there and it would still look good!

Cheers

That Aussie Bloke

http://www.onebillionviews.com - 1 billion reasons to see. 5 million reasons to try. You be the judge!

They have: 27 posts

Joined: Feb 2005

onebillionviews wrote: Hi,

Cool templatey look you got going there.

As others might have pointed out, you have too much going on at one place what with the small font and everything

I would recommend expanding the width of the page and increasing font, that way you could fit all your info in there and it would still look good!

Cheers

That Aussie Bloke

Thanks for your recommendation. Expanding the width of the page and increasing font both involve lots of hard work to do. Smiling
To tell you the truth, maybe this version of the site we will not update it in this way. But in a future version, we will surely consider this part.

Flash Templates
Sothink≠SoThink

They have: 53 posts

Joined: Nov 2005

i see this template used alot lately. but there is a reason, it is a very clean and professional looking site

Want to join the discussion? Create an account or log in if you already have one. Joining is fast, free and painless! We’ll even whisk you back here when you’ve finished.