It looks like the only thing I would work on later is the top image (I know you put some time into it) and also the 4 links on the left) Heres why...
The rest of the site other than the images mentioned lend the site to be contained in a nice package. The top images, and the left image(s) and links break from the theme you are heading to.
Try going towards the theme and possibly even integrating them directly and you might have a comfortable site. I did notice my reaction when I first saw it. (It looks like a fun site) So maybe head towards that direction also?
I think it's looking good! The only thing I would change is to have all the pages sort of look the same. Right now both forms go to plain white pages with no graphics. Either frame them into the front page, or use header and footer HTML in your scripts that match the front page.
Overall I thought that it looked okay but then again I like blue. Somethings to think about:
Logo - the logo looks fine but I think that it is too big as in width. 780px will cause horizontal scrolling with some browsers at 800x600. I would think about doing it like this:
Hoststuff
Free
Webhosting
instead of HostStuff Free Webhosting. You might also consider emphasizing the word Free.
Consistency - this is another thing that your site lacks. It should have a similar look to all pages. In addition there should be navs on every page. I think also that you should be more consistent in your use of color. In the logo you have white shadowed with black. In the left navbar, you have white shadowed with blue. The top navbar has white text on a lighter blue background. The links on the right are black text. You should be more consistent. I would probably change the left navbar to look something like your logo text. Then make your links on the left white as well. In addition, there are too many things going on here. You have an underlined mouseover text on the top but another type of mouseover on the right. Neither of which works in Netscape.
Page design and layout - you need to redo your signup table. It is quite unattractive as it is. It also should be in a table like your middle white table on your home page with all your navs. As mentioned before, all of your pages should look quite similar.
Little things - Sign up to get. I would change this to something like Free WebHosting
Sign up to receive:. If you are hosting sites, you will need some kind of Acceptable Use Policy. Will you host adult sites or warez sites? This needs to be spelled out first.
A good start overall, just make the site more consistent and you will get there.
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Actually I've been doing websites for over 2 years, although without great success. At my high point I was making $30 per month but now I have trouble pulling in 1/10 that amount.
The reason I offered the suggestion to use a host out there other than the one you were using was due to you writing "Since I'm co-hosting w/megagiga, I can't change them" I dont know what that means, wont let me change them.
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2 Do, so they can see what they can't do
3 Finish, it is all they want
4 Bill them professionally, so they feel their money is well spent.
5 Collect, so they can ask you for more services.
This isn't even loading completely in NS6 - will have to start up IE
Let me get this straight - you're offering website hosting but the people you're co-hosting with won't let you change your site???? Why? This doesn't make sense to me.
Now, as for the site. I do like the logo Keegan did for you (although I'm not quite sure about that greenish colour and the yellow but whatever...) but there's way too much space below it. Actually, what you should do is redesign the layout to fit around that logo. So the logo would go to the left of those tabs. Speaking of the tabs, you should find a way to separate links to external sites from those to internal pages. Lose the sign-up tab since it's already on the left navbar, and create a link somewhere in the body part to the get password.
I'm also not too keen on the combination of blues here - they just don't seem quite right for some reason. I also think that the navbar buttons on the left are way too big, they should be slightly smaller (although still bigger than the right side links so they stand out)
I find myself saying this about a lot of hosting sites that come through here, but I'm finding that there are a lot of unanswered questions here. Do you support SSI? PHP? ASP? What kind of support to I get? Any kind of uptime guarantees? How can this be free? (I think a lot of webmasters, myself included, are getting really wary of free services - all the good ones never seem to be free for long.)
By the ways, I have psp7.0, but how do you make those images? I can't for the life of me make them(my last set of images were also made by someone else). I mean I know the basic effects(sunburst and illumination are my favorite, but what effects did you guys use to make those images?)
I find myself saying this about a lot of hosting sites that come through here, but I'm finding that there are a lot of unanswered questions here. Do you support SSI? PHP? ASP? What kind of support to I get? Any kind of uptime guarantees? How can this be free? (I think a lot of webmasters, myself included, are getting really wary of free services - all the good ones never seem to be free for long.) [/B]
If a free hosting doesn't mention these, don't expect them to be there.
I didn't get the mail.The blur isn't that important. I'm moving my hosting services from wigloo to Community Architect. The new design will be up soon at signup.albinotreefrog.net.
The site generally has a good starting point from what i can see. I'll throw out a few points that i believe need attention.
- Theres too much dead space at top left
- I think that the top navbar needs some kind of depth.
- The free in the logo needs to be increased in size.
- The left navbar needs to be brought up higher.
Thats all i can see at the moment, ill check again in the next few days and see what you have done with it.
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I'll use the same design on signuo.albinotreefrog.net . I just need to move servers.
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Keegan posted this at 18:30 — 2nd September 2001.
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I think you are onto something here.
It looks like the only thing I would work on later is the top image (I know you put some time into it) and also the 4 links on the left) Heres why...
The rest of the site other than the images mentioned lend the site to be contained in a nice package. The top images, and the left image(s) and links break from the theme you are heading to.
Try going towards the theme and possibly even integrating them directly and you might have a comfortable site. I did notice my reaction when I first saw it. (It looks like a fun site) So maybe head towards that direction also?
K
4 yorkies agreed.
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Archbob posted this at 02:05 — 3rd September 2001.
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I'm not sure what I should make the top image. Its the sunburst effect from PSP. I'm not good at graphic design, so any suggestions?
tmay posted this at 04:08 — 3rd September 2001.
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I think it's looking good! The only thing I would change is to have all the pages sort of look the same. Right now both forms go to plain white pages with no graphics. Either frame them into the front page, or use header and footer HTML in your scripts that match the front page.
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mairving posted this at 11:30 — 3rd September 2001.
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Overall I thought that it looked okay but then again I like blue. Somethings to think about:
Hoststuff
Free
Webhosting
instead of HostStuff Free Webhosting. You might also consider emphasizing the word Free.
Free WebHosting
Sign up to receive:. If you are hosting sites, you will need some kind of Acceptable Use Policy. Will you host adult sites or warez sites? This needs to be spelled out first.
A good start overall, just make the site more consistent and you will get there.
Mark Irving
I have a mind like a steel trap; it is rusty and illegal in 47 states
Keegan posted this at 12:44 — 3rd September 2001.
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This might be what we are talking about.
http://www.kilclinefuneralhome.com/wf_posts/hsf.jpg
If you need the PSD e-mail me.
K
Archbob posted this at 20:21 — 3rd September 2001.
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Thanks for the logo, I'm using it now!!
About the sub-pages. Since I'm co-hosting w/megagiga, I can't change them . CA didn't accept me.
Keegan posted this at 22:58 — 3rd September 2001.
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Did you say that they won't let you change them?
Thats a bummer!
Hey while you are developing your site and can handle two popups you could go to hypermart and get one of their subdomains.
It would let you put a normal site up and learn navigation.
I will work on some nav images for you later tonight.
hypermart.net
K
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Archbob posted this at 01:39 — 4th September 2001.
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Actually I've been doing websites for over 2 years, although without great success. At my high point I was making $30 per month but now I have trouble pulling in 1/10 that amount.
My other sites are
albinotreefrog.net
arcade-gaming.com
http://www.casinolisting.f2s.com(still in works)
I'm going to give casinolisting a fresher look and probably remove the logos.
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Keegan posted this at 01:46 — 4th September 2001.
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The reason I offered the suggestion to use a host out there other than the one you were using was due to you writing "Since I'm co-hosting w/megagiga, I can't change them" I dont know what that means, wont let me change them.
Tips on making money in web design.
Shut up
Do
Finish
Bill
Collect
1 Shut up, so they can say yes.
2 Do, so they can see what they can't do
3 Finish, it is all they want
4 Bill them professionally, so they feel their money is well spent.
5 Collect, so they can ask you for more services.
K
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Megan posted this at 02:11 — 4th September 2001.
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This isn't even loading completely in NS6 - will have to start up IE
Let me get this straight - you're offering website hosting but the people you're co-hosting with won't let you change your site???? Why? This doesn't make sense to me.
Now, as for the site. I do like the logo Keegan did for you (although I'm not quite sure about that greenish colour and the yellow but whatever...) but there's way too much space below it. Actually, what you should do is redesign the layout to fit around that logo. So the logo would go to the left of those tabs. Speaking of the tabs, you should find a way to separate links to external sites from those to internal pages. Lose the sign-up tab since it's already on the left navbar, and create a link somewhere in the body part to the get password.
I'm also not too keen on the combination of blues here - they just don't seem quite right for some reason. I also think that the navbar buttons on the left are way too big, they should be slightly smaller (although still bigger than the right side links so they stand out)
I find myself saying this about a lot of hosting sites that come through here, but I'm finding that there are a lot of unanswered questions here. Do you support SSI? PHP? ASP? What kind of support to I get? Any kind of uptime guarantees? How can this be free? (I think a lot of webmasters, myself included, are getting really wary of free services - all the good ones never seem to be free for long.)
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Keegan posted this at 02:12 — 4th September 2001.
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Here are some new images to match the logo.
I fixed the size of the logo (Thought you would do that when I first upped it)
http://www.kilclinefuneralhome.com/wf_posts/hoststuff/hs.jpg
http://www.kilclinefuneralhome.com/wf_posts/hoststuff/su.jpg
http://www.kilclinefuneralhome.com/wf_posts/hoststuff/dm.jpg
http://www.kilclinefuneralhome.com/wf_posts/hoststuff/fs.jpg
http://www.kilclinefuneralhome.com/wf_posts/hoststuff/faq.jpg
The html to fix some things has been sent via e-mail.
You will most likely have to fix a couple things because I did not pull down the other images on your page to get the columns right.
K
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Archbob posted this at 02:43 — 4th September 2001.
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Thanks, the other images will be applied tommorrow(too tired today).
I need sponsers to go back to clicks instead of click-thrus.
Archbob posted this at 02:44 — 4th September 2001.
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By the ways, I have psp7.0, but how do you make those images? I can't for the life of me make them(my last set of images were also made by someone else). I mean I know the basic effects(sunburst and illumination are my favorite, but what effects did you guys use to make those images?)
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Keegan posted this at 02:45 — 4th September 2001.
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You have to do it today!!!!!
just kiddin, see ya around.
K
Archbob posted this at 02:46 — 4th September 2001.
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If a free hosting doesn't mention these, don't expect them to be there.
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Archbob posted this at 01:56 — 5th September 2001.
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The graphics are up, but they look blurry.
Keegan posted this at 02:15 — 5th September 2001.
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I already sent you the HTML to fix that.
Pay attention to the image sizes.
I would get rid of the images on the left, even the ones I made for you.
If you go shellchoice.com you will notice that there are not duplicated menuing on the left for the same links that are at the top.
K
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Archbob posted this at 02:36 — 6th September 2001.
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Thanks again, and If I ever make it big and successfull, I mention you in my biography.
Archbob posted this at 02:47 — 6th September 2001.
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I didn't get the mail.The blur isn't that important. I'm moving my hosting services from wigloo to Community Architect. The new design will be up soon at signup.albinotreefrog.net.
Yeah CA accepted me!!
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Lukster posted this at 22:46 — 6th September 2001.
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The site generally has a good starting point from what i can see. I'll throw out a few points that i believe need attention.
- Theres too much dead space at top left
- I think that the top navbar needs some kind of depth.
- The free in the logo needs to be increased in size.
- The left navbar needs to be brought up higher.
Thats all i can see at the moment, ill check again in the next few days and see what you have done with it.
Lukster
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"Whenever you do a thing, act as if all the world were watching."
Online Data Backup? I'd like to see that!
Archbob posted this at 02:33 — 7th September 2001.
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I'll use the same design on signuo.albinotreefrog.net . I just need to move servers.
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