Lavender Power!

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I was tired of my bland Gray Site, So here goes something you can enjoy to rant about, I was inspired this morning when I saw robfenn's Site... Well Here Goes...

http://www.demonhale.com

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Much better than the previous version.

Hate the colours, and loathe all the moving stuf, and not too keen on the background (bad 80s throwback), but design wise, it's a vast improvement on the old page. I quite like it in fact

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get rid of all the deprecated html though, and the inline CSS stuff - when you pull back the curtain it's definately less pretty

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Get rid of that logo thing at the top left of your banner

I like the colours and the way they contrast with the dark background i dont however like the background try just makeing it pure grey istead of an image.

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Point Well Taken... Background is gonna be out! (Hoping to revive the 80's).
Ill try to clean up the codes later. It validates in html 4.01 transitional for now...

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I get a horizontal scrollbar when minimised to 800*600 which annoys me.

I'm not a fan of the colours, red with grey, pink/purples & orange! I don't think the pinks suit the logo and general feel of the site. I do like the scales on the background but I think it looks odd as just a strip going horizontally like that. Can't you integrate them into the main design more in maybe a more reddish colour?

The other thing I think needs work is your graphics, not so much the actual work but placement and overlapping. The support/contact one on the right needs to come in a touch so that it isn't butting up to the side border and also on the banner itself when the 'contact us at' part fades you still see the very bottoms of the letters when the 'support@' part is showing. Then your bottom one for the 'profesional site' bit, either make the text a tad smaller or make the banner wider so that the text doesn't go right to the edge.

Good luck with the site.

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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I see your using IE...??? You see the bottom of the images because of IE's poor gif handling... See that same image in FF, theres no problem there... I fixed the scrolling issue that annoys you, I guess I didnt noticed IE has scrolling problems with my site, coz it was ok in FF (I checked in 3 browsers when making this site, I guess I didnt notice that one thanks), Im trying to make new banner on the bottom, Ill replace that one soon...
Anyways Thanks for the comments...

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As much as IE is rubbish many, many, many people still use it and always will so I design for IE and make sure it works in the other browsers. I've never heard of gifs being seen/handled differently in IE though

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Check the gif, it still is that way, looks ok in FF, not on IE... I always design in cross browser compatibility in mind, its just sometimes gif dont display well in IE... Thats All...

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Have never come across that before.

Just one more thing, I think you are using too many different fonts, makes the site feel a bit, I don't know, disjointed.

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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Thanks for the input...

I usually use Tahoma and Arial which I guess is in the same family...
You mean font sizes? Italicised and even bold?

Appreciate the info here, take time to critique, ive been improving because of criticisms...

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No, I mean fonts in banners, logos, etc.

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Oh Ok... Try to keep it in mind in the next update.... Thanks Again

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psycadelic baby!!!

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Demonhale,
I looked through IE and though..ok, not my style but ok. Then I typed it into firefox...or should say incorrectly typed in damonhale.com and I gotta tell ya, I like those lavender colors much more.

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Whats with this deamonhale http://www.demonhale.com/digicam.html its way to hard to read that.

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Hi,

I am not quite sure why you have a splash screen seems to serve no purpose, I like the overall layout of your site although I do find the colours to be a little too green, and the white text on green background does strain the eyes somewhat. Was thinking have you considered using the lavender colour elsewhere within the site an tone down the green I personally think it will help with the overall feel of the site.

I'm not sure about the grey on the site especially the scroll bar, just seems to stand out a little too much and takes the eye away from the content.

Although i do like the layout nice and tidy.

Hope this helps

Phil

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Heh! you found my little secret eh? its a transparency experiment I did, anyways it trashes the texts a little bit...

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Takes a bit to load this site on dialup.
Is very colourful, to say the least, but the red highlighted words on grey background are really hard to make out.

Overall not bad design but I think it's more of a case of 'because you can' rather than because you should.

Your validation trophy case is quite impressive, three for XHTML alone yet your site is done in HTML, not XHTML and the very bottom one looks like WAI compliant but can't work it out

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Well I splitted it to the left so its clear that what applies to my site is the html4.01 as a compliance to W3C standards (I want to advocate standardization) also CSS compliance applies to this site but the others xhtml are just to show what other standards are available which is located on the right... Anyways all of these images is loaded instead of coming with the footer, so that other sites that may intend to use these images can copy it from my site...

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Whilst your intentions are good I would remove those extra validation logos, anyone seeing them will not realise they are just for show and think that your site complies with those standards.

Advocating standards is great, but those logos do not send that message, they are - as Busy said - like a trophy chest.

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how about i put a text on top that says "The Validations below on the left Applies to this site, the right however are other validation options you can request to have"

I can validate in those other standards, just lazy so i opt for html4.01 tran.

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Why do you have to tell anyone that your site validates to this that or the other?

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Coz I said I want to promote standardization, so that visitors would advocate standards... Smiling

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Hmmm. I posted a new thread for critique and since its been 2 days it wasnt approve yet, Ill use the old thread instead.

I always feel good to be under the knife for a change, so the lavender site turned Green... I was inspired to change the overall look and feel of the site since its going to be the new year soon...

BTW its http://www.demonhale.com

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The site does NOT validate. There are coding and css errors up the wazoo!

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Link to code errors

Link to css errors

It's kind of decieving that the front page is XHTML strict, and does validate, but once you are actually inside the site the code is html 4.0, contains errors and does not validate.

Roo

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Sorry bout that Roo, on the process of editing to make it all compliant, anyways, any comments on the graphics and layout?

Oh and by the way Im having problems with the internal pages, coz its coded in php and theres a bunch of session id etc. which affect my validation there, so Ill sort it out as it goes...

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hmmm my old lavender site has been moved, im using these now, Im using the splash page, to have a valid home page, also for SEO purposes, well anyways the internal pages are php based so its hard to validate with all the session ids... Thanks for the comments though...

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I honestly haven't read any of the other comments, but the biggest thing that sticks out to me (aside from the color) is that you have to scroll down on the main page, then you get to another section with a scroll bar.

The only time I personally use overflow is in order to keep everything on one screen. IMO, scrolling down to an overflow section defeats the purpose.

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Im contemplating the same thing Tim, its good that I had another opinion... Anyways, does anybody know a way to validate php query strings?

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Wait a bit til I take two extra-strength Tylenol...........EEEKKK!! I could not get past the glaring green. Also the text on my browser is very small and hard to read. Have you considered a softer green and enlarging the text?

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OMG! Its green!

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whe he he he

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the site is nicely laid out, but the opening page needs to be adjusted...I am using FF @ 1024x768 and it was way way way at the bottom and I could barely read the "scrollable" part.

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Yes Im using FF @ 1024x768 too, its supposed to be like that its purely for SEO purposes Wink , anyways the content on that part is the same on the welcome page... Thanks for noticing that...

Fixed it anyways incase someone reads it...

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demonhale wrote: Yes Im using FF @ 1024x768 too, its supposed to be like that its purely for SEO purposes Wink , anyways the content on that part is the same on the welcome page... Thanks for noticing that...

Fixed it anyways incase someone reads it...

I don't mean to have a go but you say you want to promote standardisation but you are willing to compromise accessibility and usability for the sake of SEO?

That is a tad hypocritical my man!

My biggest problem with these validation tools is that just because you pass, doesn't mean your website is sufficiently accessible. For an inexperienced web user (your target market) then it is important that your website is very easy to navigate and understand. Your splash page does not contribute anything.

-Rob

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Not real keen on the green, but if eighties is your bag then go nuts. I really like the logo and font on the home page but I think the purple flower takes away the impact. Seems a little out of place - or maybe it's there for contrast. The face is a good logo I'd make that the feature logo throughout the site rather than the flower. The colours clash badly for me - red/purple/green .... I need shades lol. I really like the way an image displays while the page is loading (like to know how you do that), but again I wouldn't use the flowers. Why not make just the face appear on the screen while the page loads ....that would be a great effect!

Finally, fix the typos nd grammatical errors. There are quite a lot of them. If grammar is not your forte (and it's not everyone's) get a friend to go through and fix them up. Very important for the image of your business.

But I like the menu's and overall design.

Blue

PS just noticed the flower image sites behine the page. I suspect the preloading has something to do with that. Is it a background image?

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I agree rob, but then A php preload is needed to load my internal pages faster. And you say you need usability and accessibility, then a preview of whats to come without loading too long is good for my site, so it serves its purpose. Specifically, I wouldnt want to use splash pages, but I want to explain that search engines are having problems with php commands and active php access, so to compromise between SEO and my actual content, having that splash page puts everything in the middle. Accessibility and usability is good inside, where one would quickly click enter anyways on the splash which serves its own purpose.

As to Blue's Question you could actually save an jpeg image in progressive encoding to slowly load an image as the page loads, the flower image in the splash is a background div, while on the contents of the site is background to the body...

I like it when theres a varying opinion, I learn something new from people right away...

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Oh incase your wondering the old site design was the lavender, located at http://www.demonhale.com/indexorig.html

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The Site has a Good Clean Interface But the FAULT I feel is the COLOR ......... The Color of the part where U have Written Introduction abt Ur site is Pleasent But the REST that is Ur navigation Tree & site Options Part the Color HUrts the Eyes I wld say U make a Change in those Areas Use a GRadient a mix of Green & white to make it more Soothing for the EYES of teh Visitor ......

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Good Suggestion Uglued, I actually was thinking the same thing... While reading the other threads...

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Demon and Lavender Flower? I love your demon smilie. However I just got sooo confused when I went to your site. I think its the neon green and Lavender. I would focus on the Demon smilie and its supporting colors.

Oh and remove the "Illegal Sites that Copied from demonhale" it leaves a negative feeling that you have it out for people Smiling

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Hmmm I was using this old post of my old design as I said which is now located in http://www.demonhale.com/indexorig.html ;

demonhale.com is my new design which should be called Laughing out loud alien green and the lonely flower Laughing out loud ...Laugh LOL!!!!

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Nope, wait til you activate you digital vibrance to high, LOL! are you reading the front part? oh and what resolution are you in? help me out will ya!

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