Graphic X Web Design

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This is a new web design site that has been around for less than two weeks and has already begun to grow and develop into more than I thought it would. Although I don't have many forum members or posts, the site has been added onto a lot more than I expected it would, as you can see if you browse the 'News' page.

Anyway, onto the critique. I have had asked people what they thought about this site on another forum, and many said it was too bright, and they weren't too fond of the color scheme, but no one said anything bad about the layout. So, if you could (don't have to, but it would be much abliged), please critique my site and rate each of the following individually out of 5, 5 being the highest:

Banner
Layout
Color scheme
Content

This way, I can narrow down what I need to work down. If four or five people rate the color scheme low and the layout high, all I need to do is edit the CSS, whereas, if they are both rated low, I'll basically have to redo everything excluding the actual content.

Here's the link:

http://graphicx.abshost.net

Thanks a million! I truly value all of your opinions! Wink

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  • Moveing text!! It wont stop moving!! Mad
  • 800 X 600 res. is 1/3 the people on the internet.
  • News and navagaion is too big in my openion. Looks sloppy.
  • Navagation should be on top in my openion
  • News page not news box. (Openion)

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bja888 wrote:

  • Moveing text!! It wont stop moving!! Mad
  • 800 X 600 res. is 1/3 the people on the internet.
  • News and navagaion is too big in my openion. Looks sloppy.
  • Navagation should be on top in my openion
  • News page not news box. (Openion)

I have gotten rid of the marquee and simply centered the link.

It views just fine on 800x600, so I don't know what that statement is for.

Can you explain what you mean by 'too big'? The overall box, or the headers, or what?

I figured the latest news about the site was more important, and no one has had any problems, yet.

There is a news page, but the news box is for the latest news, and where you can subscribe to the newsletter, which also has its own page. Wink

Thank you both. Laughing out loud

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Its nice that you want to help the victims of the hurricane but there is a better way to do it than an annoying marquee

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Hey I like the color scheme, but then I'm no expert Wink.

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Looks good to me

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Banner: 3/5 I don't like the lines under the name. But other then that it's good.
(I noticed this only in Firefox, not IE)
Layout 4/5 I like your layout. But there is lots of empty space in the content area.
Color scheme 5/5 I like it. It's original, not many sites look like that.
Content 3/5 I didn't read your content. But there is defiantly content missing off of the front page. It's just blank.

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Thank you for taking the time to break down the sections.

BANNER:
The banner should be fixed, if not...please let me know. It was like that because of certain settings in CSS, but they have been changed.

LAYOUT:
The layout is going to change slightly. The navigation and advertisement boxes will be going on the left, body in the middle, and news and sponsors boxes on the right. This should reduce the amount of blank space without completely ridding the site of anything.

COLOR SCHEME:
Thank you. I'm always trying to be unique.

CONTENT:
Again, the content shouldn't look as bad once the layout is changed. Wink

Thanks again for your response. Laughing out loud

------EDIT------

I don't want to double-post, so here's the update. I have completed the change I was talking about above (in this post). Smiling

Kurtis

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Yeah the logo works now.
And wow, I like the new layout way better!

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Quote: This template is best viewed at a screen resolution of 1024 x 768

If it looks fine at 800X 600 why have that?

Too big as in width. I find all menus look best no bigger than 180 px

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Thanks Marcus! I like the new layout much better too. Laughing out loud

And to bja888:
Re-read the message. It says it looks best at that screen resolution, but it looks fine at any resolution. Wink

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I agree with bja888... People aren't going to change their resolution just to view your site, so why even let them know they are not seeing it in it's "best" form?

Banner:The banner is good, but maybe should tie in to your logo a bit more?

Layout:The layout is fine, but there is too much empty space in the Navigation Box.

Color scheme:I like the colors, it is unique, but maybe not too easy on the eyes...

Content: Hmm.. the only thing that sticks out to me here is your use of "we" and "my".. 'Each month we will offer a different special to a certain type of site, each theme of my choosing.'
If its just you, then stick with that, if there is a group of you, then maybe you shouldn't be making all the decisions... Wink
It sounds like you are either trying to make us think there is a bunch of you working there, but really it's just you, or you are a control freak of a boss!!! I'm sure you didn't mean it like that, but that is how it came across to me... Just my opinion...

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Okay, since people seem to be ticked off by the screen resolution statement, I'm going to move that to the bottom of the page, under the copyright information. That way it's there, but not in the main area.

About the navigation, could you possibly post a screenshot? There shouldn't be any empty space in the navigation box...

And about that statement about 'we' and 'my', I'll get it fixed. Sticking out tongue

Kurtis

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I dig the site layout, also the coloring. I dislike black as a website background, so this is a nice thing to look at.
I would go with if i had my own opinion, get a Yahoo Domain or something like

http://www.graphicxwebdesign.net/
Then just have it foreward to your current site, most people who surf the net like just basic address layout.

But that is my 2 cents

HAHA,
Working on some sites that are of better quality!

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Yeah, well, I don't have any money to spend on a domain name. Sad

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mscreashuns wrote: Yeah, well, I don't have any money to spend on a domain name. Sad

I pay $9.95 a year for my domain that forwards to my site, i found i get more traffic when i have a simpler name.

But hey, who says you have to have one? right?

HAHA,
Working on some sites that are of better quality!

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Huh? What world are you in? Domains cost nothing... i can buy a .co.uk domain for £1.99!

Not the best design i've ever seen, but not the worst. Could do with some pictures!

-Rob

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Here is my idea for you,
go here:
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/
$9.95 a year can't be bad right?

then, it has an option for a forward, then just have it forward to your current site.\

HAHA,
Working on some sites that are of better quality!

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I'll definitely consider it, but at this point it's not top-priority. Thanks. Smiling

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If you all could check out my forum and review the design as well, I'd appreciate it. I'm not too sure what I think of it and would appreciate a couple outside opinions. Thanks. Smiling

http://graphicx.abshost.net/forums/

Kurtis

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I feel you should put your logo in the banner.

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It's something I considered, but it didn't look right. It will be implemented in the new design (coming soon). Smiling

Thanks. Laughing out loud

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I have done a redesign. The color scheme is basically the same, but the layout is different. The main reason I did this was so I could make my forum template just like my main site template, which was nearly impossible with the old one. I haven't finished the forum template yet, so I'd rather you not comment on that yet. But let me know if everything shows up right and what you think.

By the way, the lowest screen resolution this site can be viewed in correctly is 800x600. Sorry to any 640x480 users! Smiling

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I have to agree that the header in the forums should be the same as elsewhere on your site. Currently the inconsistent aspect of that is working against you.

I've not looked into the exact cause, but in Firefox, the top menu is not spaced out correctly. After noticing this, I double checked it in IE, and it looks fine. However, more and more people are using Firefox. I just recently ran into my first client who was already using Firefox before I suggested it.

Also, for some reason it just looks odd to me to have the red/maroon border on the left, bottom and right of the various boxes, and not on the top. It also seems as if there should not be a border at all on the top banner, and instead of making the bottom portion of that banner the darker beige color, it should just be transparent so you can see the page's background through it. Does that make sense?

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Could you post a screenshot of what it looks like in FireFox. I don't have that browser and can't see for myself.

I'm not sure what you mean about the borders around the boxes, explain?

I'm working on the transparent thing, but the reason that I'm having trouble has to do with the way the actual header is set up, which I really don't want to explain. Sticking out tongue

Thanks for the reply! Laughing out loud

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By the way, I have now finished working the forums into the overall design. It's not perfect (the boxes on the left are missing), but with them it doesn't quite work out. I was able to completely incorporate the header and CSS properties though. Smiling

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I can't send a screenshot from where I'm at right now, but you might try this site:

http://browsercam.com/

I did the 24 hour trial awhile back, and plan to sign up for an account.

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Okay, thank you. I am trying it out right now and I'll see if I can see what you're talking about. Smiling

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Wow, there are a lot of problems with FireFox. I checked every version of Fire Fox at every resolution possible, and I don't think any of them were completely correct. I'm going to need to figure this one out, or reconsider my design. Smiling

Kurtis

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hmmm

try to buy some tutorials to see how a website can be done.
the only think i like is the color scheme

but don't be mad on me. i hope you can make bettere than this.if you want to sell web design services you hav first to have a very nice website

Good luck friend

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*sigh*

I have redesigned my site once again and I am going to go to Browser Cam and check other browsers, but what do you all think of the new design?

Personally, I like the banner better. That's my favorite part. Let me know!

http://graphicx.abshost.net

Kurtis

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The banner is pretty simple, which I do like. However, it has too many "jaggies" right now. Something as simple as resizing it to 50% or so may take care of that.

In fact, my other issue aside from the jaggies is the size. The banner is simple enough that it should take up a lot less room than it does. So resizing to 50% or so should solve that as well.

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Not meaning to sound cruel or anything at all, but when you offer web designing services, you really do need to be able to sell the services to the clients - even if it's a free service like your own. A designer's home page is their chance to show visitors just what they can do, if you have a sloppy home page they aren't going to stick around. I saw the previous design and although it was pretty rough around the edges it did have the makings of something usable. What i see now doesn't really. It looks like it took about 2 minutes to create it - apologies if it did take longer. I don't really see a design as such, there's a colour scheme in place which is nice but then a choppy logo which is actually in two parts so it doesn't look like a logo anyway. the menu could be nicely integrated into a design instead of being in limbo there where it is.

Sorry for all the negativity, it's just it's frustrating when people claim to be web designers yet have pages like this.

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I will take care of that. I'll have to reposition a few things, but I understand what you mean, and it's a good idea. Thanks. Smiling

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Banner needs improving and so do the grads. the design seems really plain to me. also you should get rid of the scrollbar at the bottom (i use 1024x768)

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Okay, I have tried to improve on most of the things you all mentioned. I did change the color scheme, but I kind of like it a bit more, but I'm not too sure. This is just a temporary folder set up, so the navigation links will actually take you to the main site. I just want to know if the design is any better...

http://graphicx.abshost.net/temp/index.html

Thanks. Smiling

Kurtis

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Youre quite on your way here, just correct some graphics, the algnments as well, read the thread were I got my first site critiqued and you get what i mean, it helped me improve a lot!

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What exactly do you mean by 'correct some graphics'? And I will check out that thread. Thank you. Smiling

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I mean your header graphics idea is ok as its cartoony and all, the problem is, its supposed to be a header and as commented before its a little jagged, maybe make it a little crisp and sharp! also on the design aspect, that image shouldnt touch the nav bar, the feet of the x cartoon does, the title "Web Development Resources Helping webmasters is the game!" isnt appropriately aligned well, and You could use better fornts here. An idea is for you to use a graphic here rather than a text, you could always use an alt tag if your concerned with the SEO... On the contents, the font is quite big really and you should have top and bottom padding to make it look less constrcicted... The Nav bar doesnt look obvious, At first glance I thought they were random texts... They are too close to each other as well as the font you chose was also large... Maybe you can divide and space them as well... The design and scheme you opt here is already a good start, just keep on working on it then repost your update...

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Okay, I'm going to work on creating one banner that will include the name (duh) and slogan, and I'm going to keep the X for fun. I will try to make the navigation more obvious...I'm trying to think of something that would help...any suggestions?

Thanks again. Smiling

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make it either with borders, or make it graphic then overlay the linked texts.. gtg now

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Okay, thank you. I have updated it, and I'm getting ready to work on something that will make the navigation more obvious. Smiling

http://graphicx.abshost.net/temp/index.html

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Ok repost it when you want it critiqued again.
The new page youve just done has these minor problems, the texts below graphic X is too light, darken it, also the top margin on the content pushes the container div to push down including your copyright text...

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demonhale wrote: Ok repost it when you want it critiqued again.
The new page youve just done has these minor problems, the texts below graphic X is too light, darken it, also the top margin on the content pushes the container div to push down including your copyright text...

it would be inside the div are texts are not big for the div container or you have problems with nested divs... check out the code... If I have the time you could probably e-mail me the html and css also the graphics youre working on and I could fix that for you... but well... :freak:

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I like it! Very simple and clean now.

The only issue I had was that the menu items are spaced properly when viewed in IE, but not when viewed in Firefox. Since your site is for webmasters, you'll likely want to fix that.

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Much better. I like it but its a bit hard to see your slogan make it a little darker.

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I'm not sure why it isn't spacing properly in FireFox, anyone have any ideas? I'll research it later if not...

I'm confused about the slogan. It looked so much better on my other computer. Sticking out tongue I'll take care of that. Smiling

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I have updated the banner, yet I am still working on the navigation. I'll update when I get that fixed. Smiling

http://graphicx.abshost.net/temp/index.html

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I would really like to make this the actual site template, but I need to know, from as many people that have time, does it show up correctly in your browser? I just really need to know if it appears correctly, and if I get some good feedback, I'll move some folders around and it will be the new design. Smiling

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It all seems to look the same in Firefox and Internet Explorer, all except the bottom of the site, as shown here :

Internet Explorer 6 :-

Firefox 1.0.6 :-

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What resolution are these at? Smiling

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1280x1024 but the copyright is missing the gray strip on all resolutions in firefox.

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hey thats what I said the misalignment before... read page 3

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I didn't know exactly what alignment you were talking about demonhale.

I don't really know what to do about this. I figured text that was within the DIV would be displayed in the DIV, silly me I guess. :rollseyes:

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Okay, I'll work on it. I think the DIV is too small for the text. I tried to make it just big enough to fit the text with a small margin, but I may have made it too small. I'm sorry I misunderstood your post the first time. Thanks again. Smiling

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This has become quite a project. Sticking out tongue

Can those of you whose browsers were not displaying the site correctly please try again and let me know if anything has changed as far as the alignment goes?

Thanks ahead of time. Smiling

Kurtis

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which link? I checked the one above but its still the same alignment problem,

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copyright is still slightly off in firefox.

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Okay, thank you both. I'm having trouble figuring this one out. I've changed the padding (well, margin) on the body DIV and I've increased the height of the copyright DIV, but nothing is working...

I'm puzzled, in the least. Sad

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I think the problem is the top div or margin which pushes the contents down (maybe non-fixed font size) problem too...

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Ok I found the problem on the copyright alignment, remove the tags on your copyright texts inside the div on your html, thatll fix that...

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tags removed. Does it display correctly now? Thanks again to all of you who have helped me through this. Wink

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Okay, I feel kind of bad because I've spent so much time on this template that you all have helped me so much with, and now I've made a new one. I will find a good use for that other template though. Wink

Now, what does everyone think of the new look? The reason I tried something new was because I took some advice (what! That's unheard of!) and browsed some other web design/development sites and got ideas for what I want my site to look like.

I'm very proud of this new design, and I feel I matched the forum up pretty well. Smiling

Let me know what you all think! Laughing out loud

Kurtis

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asme link? or template link?the red one on http://graphicx.abshost.net/ looks ok, needs just a little refinement, the leftside division overflows the body btw...

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navigation isnt spaced in firefox, the 'web development' bit looks at though it should be tight up against the header, not a little white gap as is there now.

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Okay, I can fix the navigation and the header part. Smiling

demonhale, I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you're talking about. The 'left-side division'? Confused

Thanks. Laughing out loud

Kurtis

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See your page is divided on two parts right? See the left side with the hosting pic overflows on the body, im using FF...

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Okay, I understand what you mean now. I'll look into it. Should be fairly easy to fix. Wink

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I believe I fixed the navigation and the overflowing of the side bar. Let me know if it is fixed or not. Smiling

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still there

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nav is fixed though

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There is an extra pixel of padding to the left of the tab that says web development in FF.

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Okay, the padding won't be an issue. That's actually just the white in the image I believe.

I'll try again on the overflowing. Smiling

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