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Well this is just a rough draft but I'm really considering a new layout for my web site. And I was just wondering if you could give me your opinions on it. Thanks.

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It's pretty difficult to critique a site that doesn't exist, Adam.

The concept looks fine but why don't you come up with a working (or half-working) concept.

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Ummmm... it's better than what you have, I can say that much. I do think, however, that there are many improvements that could be made. Try to be a little more creative. The layout, colour, and text effects you have used are pretty typical. That 3D logo think is particularly tacky.

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Yeah, as Mairving says, upload it so that we can get a feel for it properly. I have to say though that I don't like the logo much at all and the navigation looks very boring.

Is that the actual text that'll be on it??? Don't tell anyone what resolution to set their screen to. If you can't make a site that looks half decent in any res then you should be rethinking.

I don't think the colours work well and without a real site we can't judge any effects like rollovers on the links, etc.

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No that isn't the text that will be on it. I just had to type something so I could see the alignment whatnot.

The logo may go also but I need a logo for testing and that's what I picked for it. As for the links, I'm changing them to DHTML so I can have sub directories.

And FYI webmistress, that is a rough draft. Plus it's a bit hard to make a site set for high res when my res doesn't go past 800 x 600; I wouldn't be able to view it.

As for the real site, it's at http://images.imess.net/new-site/new_layout.html

However, the links will not work. They're just there for testing. The "Navigation" part may go. but I'm not going to use frames anymore.

And Meagan, how is it typical?

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Okay I changed a few things. And it should be fine in most browsers and all resolutions.

The new link is: http://images.imess.net/new-site/test/BYE%20TABLES.html

Tell me if I've made any improvements.

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Okay I changed a few things. And it should be fine in most browsers and all resolutions.

The new link is: http://images.imess.net/new-site/test/BYE%20TABLES.html

Tell me if I've made any improvments.

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Quote: Originally posted by Adam
Okay I changed a few things. And it [b]should be fine in most browsers and all resolutions.

The new link is: http://images.imess.net/new-site/test/BYE%20TABLES.html[/B]

Well it doesn't seem to like v4 browsers.

In IE4.0 (Mac) the "blah" text covers the entire screen, including the nav bar and the logo.

In NS4.6 there's no background, just grey, everything is left aligned, starting with your menus, then your logo then the "blahs".

BTW, the %20 indicates a space in your file name. Don't use spaces in file names. NS will often refuse to display them.

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Thanks for your input. I posted the wrong link in my previous reply. It was supposed to be http://images.imess.net/new-site/test/bye%20tables.html

And I just realized a little while ago that netscrap is very picky and doesn't like my spaces. But my design should be fine now and if it isn't, I can't help that right now. I don't have netscape yet.

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Netscape isnt picky, Netscape displays what its told to, IE just guesses if it cant figure it out, use clean, tidy coding and you wont have any problems.

OK now in IE, all I get is blah blah blah, congrats
In Netscape 4.7 all I get is blah, its almost as if you have blah<br>blah<br>blah<br>blah<br> yep all I get is one blah per line

At a gues I'd say you messed up your style sheet coding, but looking at your source code in both browsers I'm not sure if you messed up the style sheets or messed up the javascript, in IE it shows

<p class="rightcolumn">
&lt;script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript" src="blah.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;
<br><br>

&lt;script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript" src="blah.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;
<br><br>

&lt;script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript" src="blah.js"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;
<br><br>
' calling the javascript file 7 times,

in Netscape it shows

<P class="rightcolumn">
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ...
<BR><BR>

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ...<BR><BR>

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ...<BR><BR>
' shows 7 lines of blah , note i had to cut off about 100 blah's as it made this page way to wide.

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Netscape isn't displaying what it's told to if that's the source code for my page. I used a javascript file and linked it a few times. Just like it says in IE.

And I have the res taken care of but I can't work with netscape because I don't have it. It's probably the js file I messed up. I'm going to bed now but I'll work with it tomorrow. On another note, is that logo any better?

And thanks, I appreciate your input.

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well I updated it and now it looks good in all resolutions but I have yet to fix the line breaks. I don't know what's causing it..

http://adam.ourhp.com

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If you are talking about the extra space on the last sentence of the page, try moving the closing paragraph tag up...like this:
Contact me</a></p>'

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in Netscape 4.7 is still one word per line,

looking at your source code your missing a tag.
when your writing code, or bits of it, its not always wise to use things like <, ", -- etc, use the do das (forgot what they are called) <, >, " etc helps the browser out cause if your missing a tag, or quote it will think these are them then your results (if any) could be anything.
in your style sheet i found a width width a pt, px etc, you just have 140; background should be background-image, and quotes in the brackets, in your links section i think you made a typo and put #ffffff instead of the word color, you have font-style:bold, should be font-weight:bold, you also have a extra ; outside the end of one link line, missing the # off some rgb color codes.

you still need to use width and height on your images, your logo doesnt have either, using these not only speeds up loading times but makes your page load smoothly instead of jumping around while loading.

you've already linked yoru style sheet from your html page, you dont need to again from your .js file.

I like your little message about if you get a 404 error, hehe but you also say style sheets makes web masters jobs easier, I think thats wrong as none of it is very universal yet and checking, fixing, adjusting finding out what works and what doesnt can be time consuming. Its like xHTML, it was meant to make it easier, does in a way because all these IE only web designers have to learn to code properly, Netscape coders only really have to start adding a few back slashs, anyway, xHTML has been out for a few years now, but still hasnt caught on that well, even thou it can be made to work for the older browsers.

Its a personal site so you can do what you want really, if it wasnt I'd suggest doing the layout in tables, without style sheets. i'd change the grey background thou

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