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i'm trying to teach some free html classes as a community service thing. however, i have to provide the users with some webspace. any suggestions? i'm estimating that about 30 people should attend and i am also guessing that 5-10 mb per user should be enough since they will be only learning some basic html and uploading some small images.
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Busy posted this at 21:32 — 29th July 2003.
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why not get yourself a reseller account, put 5-10mb aside for your students but note in class it's only temporary and will be removed in two months.
Then students who which to get there own sites can either go to a free host (geo's etc) or buy a bit of your hosting.
davidzhang posted this at 04:45 — 30th July 2003.
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hmm i was thinking more of just install apache on an old 200Mhz computer and slap a 10 gb hard drive on there or something. that way users can upload and view their sites at LAN speeds (since it's only student's sites). also that way, i am fairly confident that quotas are not necessary since 10 gb is a lot of a class of 30 (about 330 MB/student).
the reseller account is also a good idea, the club might be able to get some money to spend on other stuff to upgrade our servers.
well anyways, thanks for your feedback.
David Zhang
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Renegade posted this at 05:50 — 30th July 2003.
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Or maybe a network drive for students to upload to?
antoshka posted this at 21:25 — 1st August 2003.
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you could install apache, that's right. if you need any help with that - e-mail me.
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necrotic posted this at 00:10 — 4th August 2003.
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If you're just doing basic HTML you don't even need apache. Just run it from the client (Instead of http://localhost/... use file:///C:/path/to/file.html). If you were doing PHP or another Server-Side scripting program you'd need apache.
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red_ghost posted this at 14:05 — 4th August 2003.
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why do you need an apache sever? unless you're planning to teach them php too. There's an alternative root, you could always get frontpage and have your students do html on that, since it dose convert the code into a preview page so you know what you're codeing.
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ShaneS posted this at 14:06 — 4th August 2003.
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necrotic is right. I use to work with my local high school when PHP ware just being conceived and back then the best thing out was front page. There never needed a webserver, all the night time adult students who wanted basic webpage create knowledge where giving logins on NT and then they would just save the files and access them locally.
It really just depends on the depth you need to go. For just HTML you dont need the server because it is all browser based code, nothing server based.
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Suzanne posted this at 16:48 — 4th August 2003.
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Don't start them on FrontPage, my god. Dreamweaver is miles better. I'd prefer GoLive to FrontPage.
BBEdit/Homesite are far better, use the browsers for previewing.
ShaneS posted this at 18:03 — 4th August 2003.
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FrontPage is definitely pure crap, it was decent when they had FrontPage 98 and the optional Front Page express you could install.
Todays FP is the worst peice of software out there. Dreamweaver MX is decent, but I still frown on the WYSIWYG approach because when something breaks you can't fix it.
I was just giving an example though Suzanne
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Suzanne posted this at 18:09 — 4th August 2003.
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Um... okay? lol... I was just reacting to red_ghost's recommendation, which is good -- that people should be able to view what they are doing as they go to learn -- with better software for the job.
I think that DW is becoming more of a suite of tools than a WSYIWYG editor. I don't use it myself, but I know a number of very competent and skilled colleagues who swear by it.
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