Please Help! Please~!

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Hi All,

I really need your help on this one. I have a design but I do not know what to make it with. I need an editor like Dreaweaver and such. This is my rough design and can you tell me what program would help me make it. Price does not matter. It has to be a WYSIWYG editor. PLease help. here is where the rough is located :

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gamecentral/Design_Rough.jpg

Thank you to all who help.
And if the design is not clear to you please post back stating that.
Thank you so much!

-Faraaz Jamal

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there are heaps of free WYSIWYG editors out there, check out downloads.com, tucows.com or whatever your favorite download site is.
couple I've used before are stones webwriter 2 and arachnophilia or you could go for dreamweaver, just keep away from frontpage

without a bottom to that picture its hard to give you a layout, also sizes, for example would the banner be to scale or wider than the bottom lower box? like anything there are several ways to do things, some are easier than others.

if you dont get an editor, make a more detailed image and we'll wipe something up for ya

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It would probably be easiest to use a couple of nexted tables. Or, depending on what you wanted to do exactly, just make your page background yellow and use a table with white background for the rest of it.

I would recommend Dreamweaver if you're looking for a WYSIWYG. Or you could use something cheaper and clean up the code by hand.

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But you see I can't post that kind of border that I had an expample of in DreamWeaver. =(

-Faraaz

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Why not? I'm a little confused here as to what exactly your problem is.

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Well My problem is, hmm have you looked at my rough design? If so. How do I create lines in dreamweaver?

What my problem is that i want to do everything that is that rough design in dreamweaver. Can I do that? mabye I overlooked something. =) I hope I did!

Please Respond!

Thxs Again
-Faraaz Jamal

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Okay, I think I know what your problem is. You need to gain an understanding of the limitations of HTML. You can't draw vertical lines in Drewamweaver or any other HTML editor. It's just not something that the code can do (You can draw horizontal lines using the tag but they're just not pretty Wink)

HTML was really not meant to be a presentation language - it was meant to simply structure content, so there aren't a lot of tools to work with to create complex layouts. What you have to do is work with tables instad and use the boxes created by them to create your deisgn. You can merge two cells together, or nest tables to create the effect you want. You can drag the edges of cells to make them wider or narrower. You can set them to be an absolute (fixed) width or a percentage (flexible) width. YOu can change the backgorund colour, and so on...

You have to do a lot of work-arounds to get something that looks the way you want it to. You may have to make some of your design elements into graphics rather than trying to get HTML to generate the same effect. Again, HTML wasn't originally meant to do this sort of thing. It can not work the same way programs like QuarkXpress, PageMaker, even word processing programs do.

I would suggest that you learn a little bit of HTML, or a least play with Dreamweaver a little more to gain more of an understanding of what it can and cannot do.

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Ok now I understand.

But do you think that Dreamweaver can do something sort of like that design? If so can u tell me how?

Thxs Again
-Faraaz

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I looked at the .jpg, did you want boxes around the tables? Borders? That's simple to do with html. Just tag it in the main table border="1"' and you will have a border. You can change the colors in the code as well.

You can download a trial verison of Dream Weaver here: http://www.macromedia.com Learn how basic html works then you can make the page you want!

Smiling Hope this helps...

Sara

~*Sara*~

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It did!
Thxs so much

But another questions Smiling

Does anyone know where I can get a good template for a coupon/bargain site?

Thxs Again!

-Faraaz Jamal

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now that u downloaded dreamweaver, u can go and download Tablelines 2.0 extention for dreamweaver. u can get it from dreamweaver exchange at

macromedia.com/exchange/dreamweaver/ by searching for "tablelines"

or u can download it direct from the author's website at http://www.geocities.com/tchislett/dw/index.html

it's the easiest way to make table lines that look nice both in NS and IE (i don't know about opera)

this extention will help you easily achieve your goal

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Ok

I have started to play around with DW's features, is there anyway I can put bullets in DW? And second I created a table and I cannot create a table next to it, or put any text next to it either y is that? Did that make sense? lol. Laughing out loud

I'll probably have more questions later knowing me Wink

Thxs,

-Faraaz Jamal

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When you say bullets do you mean to use something other than the default round one? If so you'll need to use a stylesheet to do this (it's not just because of DW it's html limitations again) for the tables it's going to depend on how big you have them set up as and what alignment you have used as to what will sit next to it. I think you need to grasp basic html limitations before you can start even using DW to do your layouts as it sounds like you want it to do what you can with a graphics program and it doesn't work like that!

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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I have a basic HTML knowledge. Its just that I am a very young 14 year old =). Who wants to make a good design. But I see where your going. I figured out the table thing (To algin left) But even when I align it there seems no way I can space out the table next to it. I.E. Put a table aligned left, but want to put one next to it with a very little space. I cannot do that without aligning the other table center =(.

BTW, I just want round bulltets.

Thxs,
-Faraaz

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It sounds like you'd be better off having one table with two columns instead of trying to work with two seperate tables. As for the bullets you need to use an unordered list which you access in DW by clicking on the button under B (for bold) in the properties inspector, exactly as you would in a word processor.

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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you really need nested tables
one table for your outside box width columns or rows, then seperate inner tables with content, spacing can be achieved with cellpadding and ceppspacing.

Last night I used DW (was a while ago) nested tables crashed DW so save your work as you go

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you can set a TYPE attribute for list tags, e.g.,

Quote:
  • list item
  • there are limitations (except in Netscape Smiling ) as noted at the bottom of this page


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    What is cell padding? You guys have been a great help! And hopefully will be for further on =).

    Thxs,

    -Faraaz

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    Cellpadding is the space between the cell content and the edge of the cell. Cellspacing is the space between two cells. The best way to understand this is to make a table with borders turned on and play with the cellpadding and cellspacing attributes - make one big and the other small and vice versa to get a good picture of how it works.

    You should really take a look at some basic html tutorials. There are loads out there that could give you a more comprehensive understanding of HTML.

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    try this for tables
    ezhtml tables
    and next page runs you through table layouts
    ezhtml tables 2

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    WHOA!

    Hey thanks Busy!

    That Tutorial answered all of my questions!! Laughing out loud

    Well since we got that covered before I actualy start my design I need a color schemes. Does anyone know any good sites that would tell you good combos?

    Thxs again Busy and Everyone else who helped. Laughing out loud

    -Faraaz

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    This is one I think Disaster-master posted a while back, very helpful page
    http://www.colorschemer.com/online/

    there are overs, just cant find em in my bookmarks lol, one day I'll sort them all out

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    Some more colour related sites for you:

    http://www.freewebmastertips.com/php/content.php3?aid=53
    http://www.nutrocker.co.uk/colorchart.html
    http://www.paletteman.com/
    http://www.visibone.com/colorlab/

    Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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    I can't wait to see the site when you are done.

    I have an old, old book sitting here that I bought when I first wanted to learn HTML... "How to use HTML 3". *LOL* Cost about $20 back then and it has taught everyone but hubby HTML even my 10 year old, back then! Smiling So, investing in a book, that I still use today, is probably a good idea.

    Smiling Sara

    ~*Sara*~

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