Opera 7.5 (beta)

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Just downloaded the latest and greatest version of Opera. Big change in the interface, although it can be modified to look like the old version. Nice change in the ads (I don't have my registration key here at work - much smaller and less intrusive with the option to use Google ads). New chat feature and RSS feeds integrated with mail. Here's the changelog:

http://www.opera.com/windows/changelogs/750b1/

Mentions improved CSS support but doesn't go into detail. Opera's already ahead of the pack on that anyway.

One thing I love is the new "notes" panel. Allows you to save text notes which can be attatched to a specific URL. (Dear newperson, please review other sites - link to posting agreement). You can then send them to anyone in your contact list if you want to. Hey, wait! That's not new!!! Why didn't I notice that before??? Doh! All panels can be viewed in as smaller column sized panels or full window with a simple click.

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Last I checked, Opera had a couple of gaping holes in CSS, which put Mozilla in front. Sticking out tongue

I wish that changelog went into more detail. I'd like to know specifically what's new with CSS and Javascript support.

The new UI arrangement looks good. Kind of reminds me of Firefox's UI. Wink Firefox also has a notes extension, which I believe functions similarly.

I find it a little odd that Opera is including a chat and mail client now, and Mozilla is branching off with Firefox and such.

Anyway, trust me to compare it with Mozilla. Sticking out tongue /me goes off to download the Linux Opera. (Too bad it's Qt though.)

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does IE have a notes extension? this would be a great addition to having googletoolbar.

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Opera has had a mail client for a long time now. I don't know how far back, I just started using it with v. 7. It's very unique, and I like it a lot. Very different method of organizing messages.

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Abhi - I'd really rather not start an argument about which browser is best here. IMO, Mozilla and Opera (and I'm assuming Safari as well) are so similar in terms of standards support and user interface that there's no point in arguing about it. Any differences are mainly a matter of personal preference. Just because I personally prefer Opera doesn't mean that I think all other browsers are no good. Mozilla is great. Use it, by all means.

The silly thing about these CSS improvements is that they're effectively useless. Opera and Mozilla support (almost) all of CSS 2. Great. So what? Can't use it anyway. Until the usage stats improve or IE makes some drastic (and unplanned) improvements were stuck where we are.

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Megan wrote: Abhi - I'd really rather not start an argument about which browser is best here. IMO, Mozilla and Opera (and I'm assuming Safari as well) are so similar in terms of standards support and user interface that there's no point in arguing about it. Any differences are mainly a matter of personal preference. Just because I personally prefer Opera doesn't mean that I think all other browsers are no good. Mozilla is great. Use it, by all means.

Not to worry. I wasn't trying to start one either. I was comparing them simply because I use Mozilla... only re-evaluating my position. Wink

Megan wrote: The silly thing about these CSS improvements is that they're effectively useless. Opera and Mozilla support (almost) all of CSS 2. Great. So what? Can't use it anyway. Until the usage stats improve or IE makes some drastic (and unplanned) improvements were stuck where we are.

Not entirely true. If my audience is people who use, say, Linux, then IE is simply out of the question. Opera becomess a major player, afaiac. This is now the case with at least one site I'm making (blog). But I agree that, in general, it doesn't matter all that much. Smiling

Besides, I'd still like to know, out of interest, what's changed. Always helps to be informed.

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yeah i use IE because it's easier to open up and looks good. i use firefox to validate my code. its a bish to open up cause it takes some time; i dunno what that's about.

i guess i base my opinion on usage and looks.

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Have you tried voting in one of the polls on cnn.com?

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What polls are you referring to?

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