HTML 4.01 and margins..

the margins, left, right, top bottom ... have never been apart of the standards (wont valiadate)
CSS is your friend .

Quote: PS. The only reason I'm validating the code is because it's going to be a webmaster site and I guess it would look bad if it failed to validate

Then shouldn't you be using XHTML

But if you only use CSS for it NS4. doesn't recognise it

NS4.7 does not sure about anything under thou

So exactly how do you set it with css then?

Quote: Originally posted by Busy
[BThen shouldn't you be using XHTML ;)[/B]

You are very right. The reason I didn't however is because when I created a new XHTML document in DreamWeaver, it added the line <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?> which gives errors becasue the file is actually a PHP file.

I found it just the other day but then decided not to use it now I can't find what I used. Took me ages before to find it but something works

**DOH, gotta find it**

[edit]Had a quick look before dinner, can't find it, So assume I was wrong until I can prove otherwise, sorry[/edit]

I dunno if you are still looking for this but here is what I beleive you are looking for.

body {
padding: 0px;
margin:0px;
}

You might actually only need one of the ones above. Can't remember at the moment so i put both.
-dk

The CSS margin's doesn't work in Opera 6.04 either and I if I put the margins int the body tag, then I can't put the W3C logo on the website. What to do?

The padding peroperty dk01 listed is needed for Opera, so if you put both in the code should work in all modern browsers.

Edit: And I wouldn't worry about having default margins showing in older versions of NS 4.

Thank you very much, the padding did wonders

PS. I'm not worried about NS 4.x users. The way I see it, if the website doesn't work for them, they have only themselves to blame for using such poor excuse for a browser. Why should I be the one spending hours and dealing with all the headaches that piece of **** causes. Get a better browser!

Couple of tidying up comments:

1. Don't use unit measures with zero values in the CSS -- padding: 0; is fine.

2. <? xml...> is optional. You can remove it without causing any problems whatsoever. It's NOT recommended for php pages because, well, the page won't work.

hth,

S

Well, I found a way around it (actually DW did it itself).

ah, interesting solution. thanks!