A few new tidbits about IE7

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Well, apparently IE7 is done with it's standards improvements Sad It's pretty sad really. People are complimenting them on their improvements but they aren't even close to where FF and O are at.

From Roger Johansson: http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200603/new_clearing_method_needed_for_ie7/

Quote: ... it now supports the min-width, max-width, min-height, and max-height properties. Great! (but) .... IE7 will not support the :before and :after pseudo-elements, and neither will it support the outline, content, and display:table properties.

Eric Meyer has a bit on Expression, the new web design tool:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2006/03/21/mixed-impressions/

Quote: Basically, Expression seems to be FrontPage done right, with a relentless focus on standards-oriented design principles. It has its own rendering engine for the design view, and the whole thing was built from the ground up, which means it isn’t trapped by legacy rendering concerns, but it made several of us wonder why that isn’t what they use in IE7

Relentless? I'll believe that when I see it Laughing out loud

From Andy Budd's site:
http://www.stuffandnonsense.co.uk/archives/mix06_viva_las_vegas.html

Quote: "Microsoft Expression Web Designer gives you all the powerful tools you'll need to produce high-quality, standard-based Web sites the way you want them. Take advantage of the best of dynamic Web site design, enabling you to design, develop, and maintain exceptional standards-based Web sites."

Sounds like they're jumping on the bandwagon to me. A good thing, I guess. Maybe more visually-oriented designers will consider standards if a mainstream tool like this is promoting them.

Finally, here's an article about more frequent IE releases:
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=183701121&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_News

Well, I should hope so! If Opera and Firefox (a small private company and an open source project, both poorly funded) can release great new browsers every year then Microsoft (a rich, multimilion dollar corporation with thousands of employees) should be able to at least keep up.

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or later buy off other browsers.. heh just kidding... they just kiss-a** since it appears the mpost views come from this browser... I hope people will convert by the masses to either FF or O...

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In other browser news, Firefox 2.0 is in alpha:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/22/firefox_2_alpha/

Oh wow, they're going to have sessions! Oops, Opera already did that. And searchable history, bookmarks, and RSS. Oh, right, Opera can do that already. They're also having this saved bookmarks thing - in Opera that's the trash can Laughing out loud

See, Opera is the best Laughing out loud

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Megan wrote: In other browser news, Firefox 2.0 is in alpha:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/03/22/firefox_2_alpha/

Oh wow, they're going to have sessions! Oops, Opera already did that. And searchable history, bookmarks, and RSS. Oh, right, Opera can do that already. They're also having this saved bookmarks thing - in Opera that's the trash can Laughing out loud

See, Opera is the best Laughing out loud

Another reason to use FF. Laughing out loud

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Funny how these people are the same ones that dribble on about web 2.0 and 'their' web standards ...

Megan's picture

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I don't see what the point of that is. These people just happened to be at a conference by Microscoft last week where they talked about the new browser and software tools.

ETA: These are also people who actually don't think that Web 2.0, Web standards, and Microsoft are at odds, if that's what you're getting at. A lot of them have commented about Microsoft's new commitment to web standards. They believe it (I'm skeptical!)

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It's the same old story again with the flaws and slow features Smiling

But also the same old story, in that people will keep using Microsoft's Internet Explorer. It's just there... and people just... use it.

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I'm trying to convert my brother who is a Microsoft systems engineer to Firefox, he would rather have lots of browser windows open and close the wrong one than convert over to the good side. For him his job revolves around the short comings of MS, he is forever fixing problems that system creates and has with 3rd party apps.
Keeps him in a (very well) paid job I guess.

He also told me the new version of windows has been pushed back (some flaws found) but soon the public will be able to download sections of the new version so when the time comes the main download wont be so big. Sounds like service pack 3 is going to be a nightmare though

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