Bye Bye Homesite?

detox's picture

They have: 571 posts

Joined: Feb 2001

This was taken from an industry email today:

Quote: Rumor has it Macromedia is gonna start laying people off (up to 250 people) starting this week. They're doing it quietly in small groups over the next few weeks so that they don't have to issue a press release. Apparently the people being hit the hardest are employees that were acquired when Macromedia bought Allaire.

They've already stopped development on the (Allaire) Spectra product line and now they are doing the same to Allaire's JRun.

This better not happen to homesite..........

Brian Farkas's picture

They have: 1,015 posts

Joined: Apr 1999

Wow... Hopefully not, homesite would be a bad thing to lose.

They have: 105 posts

Joined: Jun 2001

Yeah, I just got homesite, and now it's going bye bye.

Megan's picture

She has: 11,421 posts

Joined: Jun 1999

Well, Homesite is a really popular peice of software - probably the most popular of its kind as far as I can tell. I don't see why Macromedia would want to give that up - between DW & HS they've probably got a pretty good sized chunk of the HTML editor market.

detox's picture

They have: 571 posts

Joined: Feb 2001

you'd think so wouldn't you?

Question to all, if HS was taken off the market, what would people revert to? Obviously you'd stick with HS for as long as poss. Or do you think that the add-ons that you can script would keep the program going?

Megan's picture

She has: 11,421 posts

Joined: Jun 1999

Well, HS 4.x suits my purposes extremely well - at this point I couldn't ask for anything more in an editor, so I'd keep using it. Over the long term, who knows? It would depend on what kind of work I end up doing and the available alternatives.

Another thing is - why do you think they bought Allaire in the first place? HS would be a big reason for that wouldn't you think? (CF is big too of course)

merlin's picture

They have: 410 posts

Joined: Oct 1999

Quote: Originally posted by Megan Jack
Well, HS 4.x suits my purposes extremely well - at this point I couldn't ask for anything more in an editor, so I'd keep using it. Over the long term, who knows? It would depend on what kind of work I end up doing and the available alternatives.

same on my side. i'm still on HS4.0 and i don't see any need to upgrade (maybe i should upgrade to keep the software alive? Wink )

the question is, why did they buy them? i don't know allaire that good, but besides CF and HS, what's left to be reason enough?

They have: 15 posts

Joined: Jul 2001

They may be intending to integrate HS as their code editor inside of Dreamweaver--seems like I read that somewhere. But I'm not really sure.

--Papa

Megan's picture

She has: 11,421 posts

Joined: Jun 1999

I was actually thinking about how great that would be - to have DW & HS all in one program but that would be one heck of a large piece of software! Both are already pretty big as it is.

mjames's picture

They have: 2,064 posts

Joined: Dec 1999

I'd hate to see HomeSite go, but at least there's solid alternatives. I personally use the free Textpad.

They have: 105 posts

Joined: Jun 2001

DW and HS in one would be amazing. Good for source AND WYSIWYG.

taff's picture

They have: 956 posts

Joined: Jun 2001

DW & HS have had some level of integration for quite some time. Well, perhaps "harmonious coexistence" would be more apt. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they continue down this path now that Macromedia owns Allaire.

In the worst case scenario, I'd probably continue using HS 4.5 until it became woefully obselete and I was forced to search for an alternative.

.....

They have: 19 posts

Joined: Jul 2001

HomeSite and Cold Fusion Studio aren't going anywhere. Macromedia has to lay off people to meet profit margins now that the merger has been fully integrated. This happens whenever a large company buys out a smaller one. MM currently offers bundles for DW + HS or InterDev + CFS as a way to offer a discount on commonly used tools.

Spectra was on its way out per Allaire anyway, so was JRun. Macromedia already had their own content management server IIRC. Cold Fusion Server 5 just came out, but the next release (5.5 or 6) will be a Java-based server, which make JRun redundant. This new version, code-named Neo, will reduce the Cold Fusion server to Java servlets. This way you can run both Cold Fusion code and JSP on the same server and, I believe, in the same page.

mairving's picture

They have: 2,256 posts

Joined: Feb 2001

It really is not fair to compare Homesite to Dreamweaver. Homesite is mostly for hand coders. Dreamweaver is for non-hand coders. Dreamweaver does make some things like nested tables easier. But to me the major issue here is money. MSRP on Homesite is $89, Dreamweaver is about $300, unless you upgrade from Frontpage, GoLive but not Homesite which would make it $199. I upgraded Homesite to version 4.5 for $19.95. An upgrade for Dreamweaver is about $100. So we are not quite comparing apples to oranges here. That to me the price is the major issue. If they integrated some of the features into Dreamweaver and then dropped the price, I might be interested. Otherwise, I will stick with what brung me.

Mark Irving
I have a mind like a steel trap; it is rusty and illegal in 47 states

Want to join the discussion? Create an account or log in if you already have one. Joining is fast, free and painless! We’ll even whisk you back here when you’ve finished.