bizarre PHP MySQL web hosting problem
Datenyla http://datenyla.com
Using the Webscribble WebDate package
pretty standard php/mysql kind of like Joomla with many templates
Did a fresh install in April, made some mods mainly embedding stuff like chat, phpBB etc. it was stable it was fine
Coupla weeks ago I noticed it was displaying a blank screen
nobody touched any of the files
a complaint to webhostingpad restored half of the front page
we decided to make another fresh install - backed up and cleaned out entire directory, all addons etc. wiped db dropped all tables
clean install displayed with the same errors
so put original files and db back (luckily it is cPanel so I can unpack archives in filemanager)
Attaching a screenshot of how it is supposed to look - notice there is a sub-header 3 panel area with a photo on left, some text in middle, I think there was a register form on the right but not in the screenshot
This entire band is missing
It is a single template file index_top.html which is not only present but displays properly in the Webdate admin wysiwyg editor (I did not use the admin editor but viewed the file to see if it was there and it is)
also missing are the "male/female" selections for the drop down lists in search (and in the new fresh install they were missing just the same, from files unpacked from the fresh archive)
the only .htaccess file in public_html says "allow all" and I tried deleting it anyway no difference.
since nobody touched anything and webhostingpad restored part of the site, I think it's a hosting screw up but not sure where to begin.
oy - and it happened during web hosts from hell week, too!
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greg posted this at 22:38 — 2nd July 2008.
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If you did a clean install then you know all your files *should be* ok.
Bandwidth or overused port can sometimes cause this.
I notice on a few hosts (rubbish ones) I have worked on for clients sometimes some of the code wont load properly, a refresh and it does.
You problem of course might be something completely different, as it could be numerous things.
A note though, there are 707 other websites listed with the IP address of datenyla.com.
decibel.places posted this at 02:36 — 4th July 2008.
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Greg,
What tool do you use to count shared host sites on the IP?
Thanks
greg posted this at 03:59 — 4th July 2008.
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Well, I use various ones depending on what info I want from the lookup.
But the best one for the above sort of stats is this:
http://www.myipneighbors.com/
If you want to search for others, search for things like "reverse IP" or "reverse IP lookup"
decibel.places posted this at 03:24 — 3rd July 2008.
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yes this is a ridiculously cheap host I did not pick it
for example I discovered the ftp server limits to 2 connections (my Filezilla is set for 5)
it worked fine until a couple of weeks ago
it doesn't look like a fluctuating bandwidth problem because it is always the same - missing parts
it is very suspicious that a complaint to webhostingpad restored the site partially from a blank white screen of death
I reinstalled pristine files just extracted from the installer archive in case some of the files were corrupted. Same problem
could a bad conf file, strange php.ini or just weird DNS cause a problem like this?
I am sure it is something the server admin changed on the account - and my experience with hosting companies - probably with the sole exception of RackSpace which has excellent support - my experience is it's easier to pull shark's teeth than tracking server changes, particularly if they cause errors.
StartLogic once changed a pw on one of my databases - I could not access it even with phpmyadmin (and they did not permit remote access such as Navicat) and that was the last straw. Fortunately I had a copy of the db elsewhere so it was not an issue.
So I moved to BlueHost where they informed me they could only point my DNS to the public_html dir (at least at SL they pointed it to a subdir as I wanted and subdomains parallel worked too)
And in the middle of web hosting from hell week the dating web site went blank
greg posted this at 11:42 — 3rd July 2008.
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I would doubt DNS, ini files or conf files would cause "some" parts of a page to be missing.
If the bits missing are the same as other bits that are loading fine (like text/buttons/links etc) then I would say it wont be any sort of configuration error.
Problems with those, especially DNS, are usually are 0/1, working or not.
If it was a timeout error or even a misconfigured PHP timeout or one of the various apache timeout settings then I would guess that it would load everything fine up to the point it timedout.
Whereas with that site it was not loading certain things in the middle of the page, then loading the rest of the page.
Are there other things around the site missing as well? If yes then it's not a file or folder issue, and is something more site-wide.
If it's just that one page then you might want to upload that working file from the server to another server (another host) and see if it works fine.
If the file works fine on another host you might just want to consider moving to another host.
Sounds like it could be a headache trying to resolve this one.
EDIT: I just tried the site, and
Firefox can't find the server at www.datenyla.com
That was from clicking the link in your first post, it worked fine yesterday
decibel.places posted this at 16:19 — 3rd July 2008.
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If the site didn't display maybe I was messing with the files it is there now
I tried moving the site to my server but the license is specific to the domain, don't think I can trick that
I tried to view the template directly in the browser but the site is set up to deny access to direct view
I did, howver view the missing template file in the admin section WYSIWYG template manager and it displayed fine theree
However the admin is not showing any members or member profiles and I checked the db table is there
Also the site only displays the same landing page no matter what links are clicked, and as you noted seems to finish loading with parts missing, does not look like a bandwidth or timeout problem
When I mosved my personal site to BlueHost I tried to set it up in a directory in the public_html home dir as I had it before on another host. They couldn't manage it, they would only point the DNS to the home dir, I tried some .htaccess but didn't really do what I wanted either. In that situation, only parts of the site were showing, others not, no css was loading, but it was less subtle than the datenyla problems.
greg posted this at 17:47 — 3rd July 2008.
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I tried to view the template directly in the browser but the site is set up to deny access to direct view
Might there be an issue with either of those two^^ ?
Misconfigured license/or the access deny thing. I'm clutching at straws for you really, as without accessing the site and testing various things myself it's hard to give suggestion. It could be a lot of things really, or a combination of more than one issue.
decibel.places posted this at 04:59 — 4th July 2008.
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the license works fine on the domain it is registered for datenyla.com
other files in the templates folder display fine on the site
I think the access denied is just some local protection
the full error message is
I remain convinced it is a server conf problem and not a code problem
I need to either fix it myself or tell webhostingpad what to do
decibel.places posted this at 20:03 — 5th July 2008.
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It's the DB, Dummy
I thought if the db were dscon the site wouldn't work at all - wrong!
But some dbs work, some don't all with same username (maybe that's the problem, but should't be for 4 dbs with almost no traffic)
Here's a ticket I submitted:
(more web hosts from hell - meet webhostingpad)
Oh yeah, it is Cpanel with phpmyadmin - but it looks weird - in the menu there is no Browse on the left and no Empty and Drop on the right (see attached)
and when I was rebuilding the db, importing files over a few hundred kb timed out - and even logn insert queries had to be broken down for digestion...
decibel.places posted this at 04:57 — 6th July 2008.
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We got a response from webhostingpad:
and they closed the ticket, of course
maybe I should offer English lessons
I responded with a very detailed explanation, even more than the ticket above, and repeated the ticket
We'll see
If it gets ridiculous, has anybody used the plan at rsdarkness.com ? - Mike says he will upgrade the basic $4/month plan to the business plan for a year, he seems like a pleasant guy, but I don't want to make a poor recommendation. His domain has over 700 sites on the IP, today datenyla.com has about 300 sites on its IP, no longer 770 like yesterday.
decibel.places posted this at 00:12 — 8th July 2008.
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I have spent about 9 hours the last two days analyzing the "problem"
Due to the fact that the owner has been my client about 6 1/2 years and couldn't afford to pay me anyway, it's a "favor" and I really don't resent it.
But I am getting awfully frustrated.
It turns out that the other db apps were old apps we had installed on a different server and I was just confused which ones we are using now - those are fine - but the main site isn't.
I have emptied the public_html and reinstalled the fresh files that worked fine a few months ago, reinstalled the modified files that worked until about a month ago. I have deleted the entire database, recreated it, dropped the tables, imported them from SQL, used the install script; I have mixed the old files and the new files, tried to run the old files on the new database, tried to run the fresh files on the old database.
This is what I have found:
You can see phpinfo() here http://datenyla.com/phpinfo.php
Could PHP 5.2.5 be causing errors? I really don't know what they were running a few months ago, but it worked, same code and same installation procedure...
Although he purchased a lifetime license including free updates, support is on a subscription basis and he does not subscribe. I checked searches for error messages it does not look like anybody else is writing about these errors. The package I'm using appears to be the latest package, as a last ditch effort I will download the archive again.
The URL is http://datenyla.com
I am attaching a screenshot of the default install and one of how it looks now. I have seen the missing band of 3 images in the admin in the WYSIWYG editor and the template file is in the correct place.
decibel.places posted this at 03:01 — 18th July 2008.
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Well, we're still trying to get the *&%^% website to work again
I checked phpinfo() against the app requirements http://datenyla.com/phpinfo.php
I'm kind of grasping at straws but my gut tells me it is either a MySQL or PHP problem - maybe someone else can spot a problem.
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