How many sites do the free host have on one server? -

(((( Totally Guessing ))))

Hmmmm not a clue how many each put on their servers... though I can safely say it depends on the host... I assume places like Geocities and Hypermart can afford much better servers then a "Jake's Free Shop" type of host.

Just a GUESS --- a thousand or more per server for the larger places....

One thing to note... I believe places like Hypermart use the HTTP/1.1 protocol (e.g. shared IPs) so they do not need near as many IPs as one would assume they do. You can host a LOT of sites on a single IP (though too many can cause problems if not done correctly)

((((Stop Guessing))))

When we first started we only had 8 IPs to work with... We managed to host over 300 sites with those (and only two were used for the sites themselves...) I NEVER want to be in that position again! But it was a great learning experience and proof that it can be done

Deb

I think that most of the free hosting companies put a bunch of clients on a server (hundreds). Since they are free, you can't expect too much from them. I imagine with the business accounts, they lower it, since they are paying.

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Well, let's see.. Hypermart has 199465 members, and 15 servers. That means they put
13,297 2/3 users on each server.

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It really depends on what type of domains they are, more than how many domains there are.

One can easily host thousands of domains on a "small server" if the domains are small themselves and only serving static HTML pages.

Once you add in cgi scripts and server side scripting languages, and email, and stats, etc etc etc then the number of domains you can host lowers.

Some hosts are able to out source things like email and stats to other servers developed just for that type of thing... which helps the load on the server that's only there for serving html pages a great deal.

I really do not feel asking how many domains are on a server will give an accurate picture... though it may give you a good 'idea' of how they do things. Some setups can handle more some less and all depend on what types of things they are handling.

In its most simplest of terms...

HostA and HostB use the same type of server. HostA may host mainly parked domains and static HTML. While HostB hosts mainly heavy script domains. Obviously HostA can fit more on the server than HostB can. So just knowing the number of domains really wont help with the information you're looking for.

Something like: "How many sites are currently running on the server? How many more sites do you think you will put on it before it is full? How do you decide what constitutes a full server?" may help give you a better picture since you are allowing the host to explain how it works on their systems.....

Deb
ahhh the complexity of it all

Ouch! Those stats for hypermart hurt, 13,000+ on one server!

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Hi,

two years ago we did a little research project and successfully served 5000 domains on a P133 with 32MB-Ram and some Harddisks.
The thing worked fine until it got to many requests (I don't remember the numbers), but at this moment then network-link was already overloaded.

My last Provider hat about 25K Domains on an 333MHz-System. I dropped him due to bad service (performance was ok).

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It seems to me having multiple domains on a single server wouldn't be too much of a problem (up to a point of course). So if a host has 1,000 domains on one server, it's not like all 1,000 will get hit all at once at the same time.

I'm not saying it's good to 3,000+ domains on one 333mhz server, but there's probably some threshhold up to which service is OK and then starts to degrade rapidly.

Is there any way to check how many domains a host has on a server? Or do you just have to take them at thier word?

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What can I expect from a host that I pay like 15$ a month?

My host is http://web66.com . I was always satisfied with the speed and especially the service, but they seem to have problems running their servers on Monday mornings.

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I would say that since fres hosts rely on bulk for their business to profit, they would be more likely to get the maximum out of their resources...or servers.

Server capacity on the average is about 500 accounts. I know we normally only put about 250 max on them because it will increase everyone's performance and make it less likely that someone with a very popular or busy site will affect others on the same server.

If you're considering a free web host, don't be afraid to ask them questions...like what is your server capacity vs. the actual number you place on there? Ask to email current clients and see how they like the service.

Thanks!
Anthony Vita
www.webfeat-inc.com

I think the most important aspect, is what kind of server are you running? If you're running a PII (or better yet, a PIII) Dual 450, with 3 megs level two cache, 512 megs of Ram, hooked to a 100baseT ethernet, then that server can handle many requests, and subsequently, many accounts. In many cases free hosts will put thousands of accounts per server. I think 13,000 like HyperMart is a little much, but, to me 7500 seems to fit well. You have to remember, that a very large portion of these sites will only get a few hits a day. Some won't get any hits on the average day. Additionally, most sites don't have any type of server-side scripting language (like Perl, ASP, PHP, etc) which normally slows servers (espically Perl, since it's a non-threaded language)

My point is, although Free hosts put thousands of accounts per server, most the accounts are using limited resources.

Again, you're trying to promote your buggy script Ted. Therefore, I will yet again relay my experiences with your script and company. You should have never sold me a script with bugs in it, double header problem still not fixed. My post in your support forum also shouldn't have been deleted because I was telling potential customers about the bugs in the script or my signature was "Disillusioned Homefree Owner". I find what you guys did very unprofessional. Trying to hide the fact that your script isn't as great as advertised, by deleting my post informing potential customers of the script its short falls and selling me and many others a script with bugs.

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Well.... incase you care anymore... Hypermart's server #4 has 14850 accounts on it (http://infinity2.hypermart.net/test/dir.cgi it's damn near close). As for a serer, they run pII 500's last I heard....

Geocities also runs a ton of accounts. People using homefree (www.solutionscripts.com) which does web bassed accounts and not ftp accounts is known to easily fit 20k - 50k on a server, although 50k accounts makes for one damn slow cgi script.

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fairhousing - I am not going to argue with you in this forum over the quality of HomeFree, I will send an email for that instead.

The fact remains that I stand by HomeFree 100%, the majority of our clients are more then happy with the script. I am sorry if we can not make everyone perfectly happy or have every version be perfect. After all, were not talking about a 3,000 dollar dedicated script but rather a script that has to serve many people well and does so.