Communitech.net - I'm frusted
Malte,
I am sorry but sueing them isn't going to do anything except cost you a lot of money. They haven't done anything wrong, legally. Unless they specifically stated in an e-mail or on their site that they could change your MX-records, you would only end up loosing a bunch of money in the lawsuit. It is very hard to sue a host because of the way contracts are written. There are so many people on the Internet that just think if they don't get everything they want, they should sue. This is what has made us hosts put such detailed contracts and policies on our site (the ones you have to agree to before using their services). It is not the hosts that have caused this problem (although I will admit that some hosts have had a great deal in causing it due to their business practices).
As for the whole MX-records thing, it was my assumption that most hosts would allow you to have the records changed. Apparently CommuniTech is one that does not.
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Anonymous posted this at 17:41 — 8th July 1999.
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I wans't really thinking about sueing, anyway, allthough I have an insurance that would cover the cost.
In my order form I mentioned under special needs or something like that, that I would need to have my MX-Record changed. I also wrote an eMail asking for a couple things that I would need, and I find now that they confirm any of the needs like "cgi everywhere" and SSI but they just forget the MX-Record.
Well, my only option is now to install real web based eMail on my account. I dont like that at all though cuz it takes away a lot of resources and its also time-consuming to maintain. Especially if they cancel my account due to too high system resource use due to the web based eMail program that I only have because they would not change the 10 bytes of the MX-Record; That would be perfect irony.
Bye,
Malte
PS: Maybe I should have added this thread to the older communitech one, but I didnt see it. Sorry.
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fairhousing posted this at 18:17 — 8th July 1999.
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hmmm, i wrote them a pre sale question a few weeks ago asking if they change mx and they said no. guess this goes to show that companys need to speak with one voice even thought they may have many employees or at least answer all your order questions. try these folks, they told me via icq that they change mx records for free www.amhosting.net
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Anonymous posted this at 19:09 — 8th July 1999.
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I think its totally absurd not to change it. I chose Communitech out of about 20 hosts I looked @ and all of them probably would have changed the record. I send the same eMail to all of them, and I obviously made the wrong decision.
Does anybody here know a reason not to change the MX-Record for a customer?
elara posted this at 22:57 — 8th July 1999.
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Maybe they are a reseller for a host....
JP Stones posted this at 23:29 — 8th July 1999.
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No - they are not.
JP
Deb posted this at 01:04 — 9th July 1999.
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Many hosts will do this..
As for reasons why a host would not do this.. I tend to be hard pressed in thinking up ideas.. but here's my best shot at it:
1. We've changed the MX-Records for quite a few domains... in one case a site owner had emailed us requesting support on why their email wasn't working correctly... we had began a conversation with the client in an attempt to fix the problem.. BEFORE realizing that it wasn't us the problem was with... ergo.. we didn't check to make sure their email was handled by us before begin the support call.. a larger host may be trying to prevent that type of scenario.
2. It does take a someone off of whatever task they are working on to stop and make the changes required.. quite possible a larger host doesn't want to have to have a tech available for that type of task.
3. You say Communitech claimed their reason was for some type of added spam protection..
Ok.. that's all I can think of
On the flip side -- if you need that type of service you probably will need to switch hosts -- Just make sure you ask specifically if this service is available and make sure you receive a clear YES answer before moving.
As an aside... I have to agree with Chad in reference to why so many extra rules/regulations are created by hosts.... when doors are left open, ppl can, will, and do, walk through them
Deb
Anonymous posted this at 03:40 — 9th July 1999.
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Hi,
first of all, I am back in Germany and I will have more time to post here again. So Hi Everybody.
I signed up with Communitech.Net, especially because I heard that they host these forums and at first I was quite pleased with their services and server performance. But now they won't change my MX-Record. I use Bigmailbox.com and thus need the MX-Record topoint to their mail servers. More than a 1000 people have eMail accounts with my site goKewl.com and I won't skip that service just cuz some stupid company policy that says no change in MX-Records. They say it is to prevent spamming but actually all they do is have another server handle the mails, so they would have much less traffic themselves. The so-called support manager probably doesnt even know what the h*ll a Mx-Record is and just reads through their long long list of policies instead of using his brain.
They are even so "nice" to give me back my money, because I have to change servers again. What they dont understand is that it is a lot hard work to move a site and that the last thing I want is to move it again.
Does anybody know a reason why its so damn hard to use a text editor to change mail.goKewl.com to mailrecv.gohip.com?
Well, please tell me other places were I can leave my frust again Communitech.net, so they get bankrupt or something. Maybe I should just sue them to make them feel the pain.
Later,
Malte Ubl
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Anonymous posted this at 22:02 — 9th July 1999.
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Now we asked whether it would be allowed as an alternative to install a real web mail software.
Response: No way, takes away too many system resources.
Could there be a reseller of CT that would change the MX-Record but where the move to the "new" server would be really smooth?
Webmaster posted this at 02:30 — 10th July 1999.
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no that wouldn't be possible. All resellers would have to follow all of CT's rules.
Jason Ellis posted this at 20:59 — 10th July 1999.
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One thing you could do would be to run your DNS through another company - say NameSecure (www.namesecure.com) - that would point all your different DNS records wherever you wanted them to point - thus bypassing Communitech's MX record policy.
On the other hand, if Communitech is so anal about MX records, maybe they have some freaky policy about not letting their clients use external name servers, in which case I guess they wouldn't let you do it.
From my perspective, we are always happy to adjust DNS records for our customers. I mean, really - it takes 30 seconds to edit the record in each name server - that's a minute all told - and then we never have to touch the thing again. It makes no sense to me why anyone would refuse to do that.
But, that's just my opinion. Good luck!
Jason Ellis, CEO
Hosting Solutions, Inc.
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Anonymous posted this at 22:47 — 10th July 1999.
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Could I still have sub domains with name secure?
I got kinda confused with their site, they really dont advertise to host your domain and give you full control over your DNS but they rather show stuff like website and email forwarding.
Thank You,
Malte
Jason Ellis posted this at 01:52 — 11th July 1999.
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Malte-
Name Secure doesn't host your site - it would still be hosted by Communitech. What I suggested you do was to use Name Secure to run your DNS entries - that is a service they provide. You would still host with Communitech, but Name Secure's DNS servers would simply direct your domain to the IP address CT gave you. There are other companies that do this, but Name Secure was the first that sprang to mind.
You'd have to ask Name Secure about the sub domains thing - I'm guessing that if CT provides separate IP addresses for each sub domain (like we do here), then yes, Name Secure could forward the site to that IP. But I don't know that for certain - you'd need to ask Name Secure.
Good luck,
Jason
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CWebNetCo posted this at 03:43 — 12th July 1999.
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gokewl,
If you want a full control over your domain such as MX Records, Control Domains, etc. I suggest go to iServer (www.iserver.com) then you can do anything you want at your own end then you could have fixed up the MX Records in no time. That is the best bet you can get.
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Gil posted this at 18:06 — 13th July 1999.
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Hey guys, CT is really a cooke cutter type host. They aren't flexible at all, and are basically the exact opposite of iserver.com. So if any of you are thinking of hosting with CT, know that they won't bend the rules for you. They don't even allow unlimited bandwidth as they claim they do (hmm, false advertising?). But of course, you wouldn't find that out until youhost with CT and start reading their forums.
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hostinvestigator posted this at 02:44 — 14th July 1999.
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There is always a possibility of spam occuring or illegal material passing through your mail server. If your MX record points to another server then the load is not on the hosting company (like you said). But if people complain then it is Communitech that will get the bad reputation and because they are the hosting company, and serve your website and people would naturally conclude they serve your mail needs, there a few people that would actually query MX records.
jabba posted this at 22:08 — 20th July 1999.
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A question re:bigmailbox
Being new to the hosting scene (freebie user until very soon!) I was looking at bigmailbox as a nice facility for our site members. Reading between the lines, it seems that all mail will get redirected to the bigmailbox server for processing. Does this mean that the hosting facilities (pop3/mailing lists/etc) are useless once you signon to bigmailbox ?
Jason Ellis posted this at 22:49 — 20th July 1999.
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"Does this mean that the hosting facilities (pop3/mailing lists/etc) are useless once you signon to bigmailbox ?"
Yes, it does.
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jabba posted this at 03:06 — 21st July 1999.
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Thanks for that.
Hmmmm ... might have to rethink the strategy again then.
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