So many websites with no background color...
Hey,
I recently changed my Windows theme colors to different than white as window background color and you won't beleive all the websites I've seen with no background color set. I didn't notice them before since my window background color was set to white and IE uses that color as default background (if no background color is set).
You guys should give it a try, it's very interesting
disaster-master posted this at 06:51 — 19th November 2002.
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Isn't it Netscape that shows if a site doesn't have the background color set?
Busy posted this at 08:11 — 19th November 2002.
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I have had my background set to grey for ages
IE's default is white, NS is grey I believe
Zollet, in opera you can turn off tables, CSS and images, but just turning off tables can be fun if your bored lol
The Webmistress posted this at 08:38 — 19th November 2002.
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I have tried that before and it's just scarey tho think that someone could be seeing your site as a right mess!! LOL
zollet posted this at 09:26 — 19th November 2002.
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My point is that IE's default background color is whatever color you select in your desktop theme. Now that I've selected a different color I can easily spot sites that don't have any background color set
PS. And it's scary to see how high that number is.
taff posted this at 10:23 — 19th November 2002.
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Aye. This is something I'm absent-minded about myself and one of the few things I find Dreamweaver handy for. I've caught many a missing bgcolour that way.
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Renegade posted this at 11:37 — 19th November 2002.
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wow that's interesting! well lucky i hardly ever fall into that catagory, one of the first things i do when making a site is to set that background colour
so i'm safe hehe...
Megan posted this at 14:04 — 19th November 2002.
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Wow, I didn't know about turning off tables! I'll have to try that one
Just for fun... I do switch to user mode sometimes, but mainly on sites that have miniscule font sizes. Sure, it doesn't look like what the designer intended but quite frankly that's their fault for making their font sizes unreadable.
I don't think anyone should worry about users turning sites into a mess with such controls - that's totally contrary to user-centered design (meaning that the users should have control over their own browsing environments. If I want to turn off images that's my perogative). The ability to use a custom stylesheets is an accessability issue as well.
Re: the background colour thing - it's so easy to forget to put in a bgcolor when you're keeping it white (sorry, background-color now
) I guess this is something that some of us need to pay more attention to.
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Abhishek Reddy posted this at 09:57 — 21st November 2002.
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Try changing default font color.
TWF uses browser default. But as Megan says, that's a good thing (usercentric).
Megan posted this at 14:42 — 21st November 2002.
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Oh, wow, I didn't get into this before, but Opera can do all kinds of neat stuff in User Mode (user mode basically removes all table backgrounds and replaces the stylesheet with the user-defined stylesheet). Two good ones are "emulate text browser" and "accessibility layout" - good to know what people using those devices will see (and probably what screen readers will do).
"Show structural elements" (block level tags) and "debug with outline" (shows borders of table elements) will also come in handy for debugging. Man, there's a heck of a lot of nested tables on this page!
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Mark Hensler posted this at 18:58 — 21st November 2002.
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That's why its a real pain to edit templates. You have to remember where tables start and end and which templates are in which other templates... and.. and.. yeah.
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necrotic posted this at 01:34 — 25th November 2002.
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Ya, vB can be hard to edit. But once you get the hang of it then it becomes easy. It's fun to make vB look totally different than it's supposed to, though
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