No. 1 DESIGN TIP

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I used to just make my websites straight away. Just design as I go along. The outcome was TERRIBLE

But. Remember this as it will help loads:
Design your site on paper, and then design it on the computer using Image software, frontpage etc.

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Just when the tip was going so well it was ruined at the end.
frontpage, ewwwww

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Haha, yeah. No need to bring in cheap useless software. Come on! Laughing out loud

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Oh, no need to pick on the newbies either Wink

That's a pretty good tip. One of my best tips sort of builds on that one - make sure you have a clear idea of what the site should accomplish (in terms of functionality, content, usability, look & feel etc.) before starting your design.

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I wasn't trying to be mean. Just playing around. In fact, I think FrontPage can be pretty good for beginners. Wink

I always like to go into generic MS Paint or something and using the different shapes and colors and that kind of thing, go in and figure out the basic layout. This way I can see how everything will fit together and can figure out the dimensions. Smiling

Kurtis

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No no no, frontpage can never be good for anyone, if you must use an editor use dreamweaver or one of the many other semi decent ones around.
Frontpage is closer to MS Publisher or Word than to a useful editing tool

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I have a big white board that I use, that way you don't waste paper with all the changes Wink

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frontpage is not that bad! except for the support for PHP etc)

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and html, css, javascript ... other than that, yeah frontpage is great Laughing out loud

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Yeah and it comes with the best Office Suite too! LOL!

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Any WYSIWYG editor is ok as long as you can hand code in order to clean the coding up at the end!

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you all look for the easy options. Code it yourself! Its better because you get to know how the language works

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popinsiteads wrote: you all look for the easy options. Code it yourself! Its better because you get to know how the language works

That's another good tip, especially for beginners! I find, though, that now that I know the mark-up intimately, coding everything by hand isn't the best use of my time. I prefer to spend my coding time working on complex CSS and things like that. Dreamweaver can do the simple things just as well as I can.

Does anyone else have any good design tips? I could probably come up with a slew of them if I had a chance to think about it Smiling All in due time Wink

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LOL - it was you that kicked off the Frontpage debate as you said

Quote: Design your site on paper, and then design it on the computer using Image software, frontpage etc

Wink

Julia - if life was meant to be easy Michael Angelo would have painted the floor....

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If I'm experiencing designer's block, I'll go to a site like http://www.coolhomepages.com/ or http://www.templatemonster.com/ and write down different aspects of designs there that I'd like to incorporate in my design.

I try to not draw anything or bookmark any of the sites, so that I don't end up copying them.

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I do that with the CSS zen garden. I'll just make a list of URLs I like for that project and note what might work for me - could be just the way they did the headings, or the navigation or some little detail like that.

Cameron Moll had a good article once about how good designers don't just borrow - they steal. I think this is part of what design is about. Just borrowing little pieces from other designs (doesn't even have to be web designs either), and combining them into your own creation. No need to reinvent the wheel every time.

Here's that article:
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/copy-great-designers-steal
(the second-best thing Sitepoint has ever published Laughing out loud)

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Yeah a good one too, the other one was about that good web sites sucks or something...

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