Dreamweaver Layout
I am about to do a major redisign on a site, im trying to stay away from frames, but working with tables seems so much harder!
I am trying to get a layout done before i try to get the information strait.
the problem is .. i cant get the layout done in tables, and i need some direction..
i am going to have a header, main, and footer table that are just one table.
but i have a side bar on each side that is split horizontally in different percents..
the left side should be around 70% on the top to 30% on the bottom... on the right frame beside the 'main' would be 40% on the top, and 60% on the bottom
i know its confusing, but im so baffled i cant get this strait!
any information is needed and appriciated..
thanks in advance
The Webmistress posted this at 07:59 — 23rd August 2003.
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What exactly are you having problems with? Can you show what you have so far?
joec0123 posted this at 06:05 — 24th August 2003.
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well, i've blew my luck and im going with frames...
but, im having trouble with getting a header, footer, main, left, and right frame all together..
would anyone tell me how i can accomplish that?
im using dreamweaver for a wysiwyg editor...
thanks again..
The Webmistress posted this at 08:52 — 24th August 2003.
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IMO frames are more trouble than they are worth, tables are a much easier option. DW makes it easy to use tables and for your layout you need one table with one column for the top into which you put your header, then one table with two columns, the left column for your navigation and the right one for the main content, then one table with one column for your footer section.
Are you having problems using DW or the actual layout?
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joec0123 posted this at 17:29 — 24th August 2003.
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It's the layout, I would like it in tables, but i never have made a websie in tables, just frames...
i heard that tables are better, so i was going to give it a try, but im not sure how to do it from page to page?
copy and paste the stuff that stays the same? (im guessing)
this is what i would have liked in tables (but i could only get it in frame)
...
This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't support them.
Suzanne posted this at 17:35 — 24th August 2003.
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<table width="100%"><tr>
<td colspan="3"><!-- contents of top.htm --></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="150"><!-- contents of left.htm --></td>
<td><-- contents of main.htm --></td>
<td width="100"><!-- contents of right.htm --></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td colspan="3"><!-- contents of bottom.htm --></td>
</tr>
</table>
You don't really need the top and bottom row, either, they could easily be other types of markup before and after the table. You can also move the widths to the CSS file, but I'm not sure where you are in your learning, and this will help you get started, anyway.
<div id="header"><!-- contents of top.htm --></div>
<table width="100%">
<tr>
<td width="150"><!-- contents of left.htm --></td>
<td><-- contents of main.htm --></td>
<td width="100"><!-- contents of right.htm --></td>
</tr>
</table>
<div id="footer"><!-- contents of bottom.htm --></div>
Megan posted this at 13:06 — 25th August 2003.
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Upload what you've got and give us a URL - it'll be a lot easier to help you if we can see exactly what the problems are.
joec0123 posted this at 22:35 — 25th August 2003.
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suzanne thats perfect, but i tried it out, and frames look to be the solution to my havoc... is there any easy way to convert that look into frames?
joec0123 posted this at 23:11 — 25th August 2003.
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well, i have been working on it and it seems to be better than i thought..
still have a lot of work to do though..
ill get back to you when im finished
Suzanne posted this at 00:01 — 26th August 2003.
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Ideally, joec0123, that code took your frameset and made it into a table!
joec0123 posted this at 00:06 — 26th August 2003.
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i have another problem... but its way too much code to put on here
i cant get the 'main' and 'right' tables to fill the header and footer tables
Suzanne posted this at 01:24 — 26th August 2003.
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put the page online and give us an url and we can help you out.
also, http://validator.w3.org
joec0123 posted this at 11:45 — 26th August 2003.
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it's done!!
i finished, thanks so much too everyone..
you know i cant go without another question..
i need to know how i can preload or cache the images (preload before entering, and cache the tables that stay the same)
andy206uk posted this at 11:46 — 26th August 2003.
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Eugh.... frames? tables? have you ever considered buying a good book on CSS and perhaps trying some up to date design techniques?
sitepoint.com do a brilliant book on CSS.
Andy
Suzanne posted this at 15:48 — 26th August 2003.
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Use small images, and don't preload. It's not worth the hit to users. And Andy has some good advice. I'd recommend you get more solid with html/xhtml as well.
joec0123 posted this at 23:22 — 27th August 2003.
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the layout is almost done...
how do people update thier layout if they need to change a cellspace or something, if they have a 100 page website?
this is what i have so far, the links dont work yet on the left, and this is only the calendar page...
http://centralprivate.org/New/activitycalendar.htm
Suzanne posted this at 23:59 — 27th August 2003.
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Includes or templates.
Renegade posted this at 06:03 — 28th August 2003.
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You would have to use a server side language, I recommend PHP.
Megan posted this at 12:53 — 28th August 2003.
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Server Side Includes are also a simple solution. Here's a good tutorial if you're interested:
http://www.bignosebird.com/ssi.shtml
Specifically this one:
http://www.bignosebird.com/sdocs/include.shtml
Or do a search here - this question has come up many times.
Megan
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teammatt3 posted this at 17:42 — 2nd September 2003.
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use css
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