Can't Find That Extra "Something"
Hey...
I'm working on a new website...and i just can't find that additional something to make it better.
The URL is terrifictots.com/index2.php (only page that works)
Two things: the images on the left are temporary until I get my shipment from IStockPhoto, and I know that the copyright isn't on the bottom (Mozilla/Netscape) for some reason.
The company helps kids build motor skills and work on shape and color reconition. I was told to use lots of shapes and primary colors. (The Logo is not-change-able)
Other than that, I'll take any suggestions.
Dragon of Ice posted this at 16:19 — 14th July 2004.
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When I mouse over Directions, it bumps down the rest of the links and the baloon.
davidjaymz posted this at 16:23 — 14th July 2004.
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Not getting that problem? What browser are you using Dragon?
DJ
Yianni posted this at 17:19 — 14th July 2004.
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That happens in IE. I'm on 6; I don't know about earlier versions.
davidjaymz posted this at 16:22 — 14th July 2004.
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I know you said you can't change the logo, but its a bit "fuzzy" can that be improved?
Your "pop-up" menu system is a bit hit and miss in Firefox. I actually struggled to be able to get onto it to click.
I agree that something is missing... not sure what, maybe with the layout. can you join it together some more? it looks kind of seperate at the moment.
Hope some/any of this helps
DJ
Dragon of Ice posted this at 18:17 — 14th July 2004.
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Yup. IE6
kb posted this at 01:09 — 15th July 2004.
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yeah check my post .... [url=http://webmaster-forums.net/showthread.php?t=25530]here[/here]
The menu shouldnt be a hit and miss in firefox...I designed the site using firefox: it should be directly to the right of the main item
Blurriness is non-negotiable
So...does anyone have any ideas
Busy posted this at 02:13 — 15th July 2004.
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I find the navigation a bit hit and miss in firebird, if you try slide to the extras to slow you miss it, took a few goes to work out you have to do it fast or you miss it. maybe extend the onmouseover (or whatever your using) to the width of the section you have (div or td) sorry didnt study your code.
the copyright bit at the bottom, replace alt= with title= (alt is for images)
You say the logo is unchangable, but I reckon changing the black text or using smaller (skinner) ouline lines around the kids would improve on it a lot.
A lot is going to depend on the images you use and the amount of text you use, at the moment I would say add some images amongest the text to break it up, but it's only fill in so no point.
kb posted this at 02:40 — 15th July 2004.
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Ok...I'll see what i can do tonight
As for the logo...that is a the company's logo. Copyrighted and the whole deal. TOTALLY non-negotiable (meaning I can't change anything)
Busy posted this at 02:48 — 15th July 2004.
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You need to show them this post then or tell them images from general media don't always transfer nicely to the web.
Every image that is made is copyrighted (same as text), resizing, lightning ... an image wont effect that, It's only when the actual image itself is changed, i.e. shapes changed etc.
I'd run it past them, and ask if you could "adjust" it slightly to suit the web.
But at the end of the day, if you can't change it you can't change it.
kb posted this at 03:06 — 15th July 2004.
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I tried...
They said no...I even offered to do a new logo for free for them...but...yea
Anonymous posted this at 03:32 — 15th July 2004.
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Hello. I'm a newbie and this is my first post. I agree with everyone one the logo, it is blurry. Maybe you should add some stars, with the rounded points. They are playful and fun.
kb posted this at 03:39 — 15th July 2004.
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Do people only read the first few posts? GAH!
Here's what I tried...I tried to extend the life of the mouseOut function, but it works to an extent: In IE it holds it, but never hides it again. The code I added (inside the mouseout) is:
node.onmouseout=function() {
exec='this.className=this.className.replace(\" over\", "");';
endexec='1000';
setTimeOut(exec, endexec);
}
And as I'm sitting here typing this...I realized that the JS is a fix for IE, because it doesn't accept :hover attributes except for tags. So how can I get a mouseout delay on non-IE browsers? How can I get the mouseout to work on IE?
nike_guy_man posted this at 05:14 — 15th July 2004.
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That navigation is a bear to negotiate
I gave up on trying to get to the last 2.
Aside from the nav and unchangeably blurry logo, I'd go with something on the right side. Pictures of kids? The staff?
Green and orange are primary colors? The balloons I speak of
Perhaps it will have that "something" when you put some content in
Busy posted this at 05:16 — 15th July 2004.
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Just a thought, this site is targeted towards kids isn't it? or is it to the parents and kids?
From the logo I'd guess it was very young kids, so would the naviagtion be to complex for them?
How about doing a click/drop type menu, where as you click on the main topic to get the list of sub sections, click on the next section, it hides the other one and displays that sub section.
Could be seen as more 'playful' for the kids and you could use icons beside the menus to brighten it up.
I think I have some code for it somewhere if you want to try it.
If it's not the kids you target then ignore the above
kb posted this at 14:40 — 15th July 2004.
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Its geared towards the parents of kids
But I'll try that menu anyways, see what I can find. If you want you can PM or email me with the code of yours. That may come off better than trying to add-onto the MouseOut time
As for the pictures, there's a separate page. Colors...well, like I said, those images are temporary.
Thanks!
kb posted this at 16:53 — 15th July 2004.
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Ok check it out now...
It still has one issue:
In Firefox/Mozilla, the copyright is under the menu
In IE, the copyright is at the bottom with like 3 inches of space in between
Anyone got ideas (I can't figure it out...I used the same format as my other sites)?
terrifictots.com/index2.php
Busy posted this at 21:38 — 15th July 2004.
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Put the text around the crayon image (dont forget the width and height tags) so it becomes a part of it instead of seperate bits
for that copyright, use (or whatever it is)
I'll dig that code out for you, but for what you have, you might want to add a + symbol or change the mousecusor to show they are links
[edit/add] That code I had still had the source link on it, while what I have is different to the orginal, the orginal can be found here, hope it can be of some help.
kb posted this at 01:05 — 16th July 2004.
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Well i would do the width and height tags, but they change with the picture...the picture is randomized via PHP...so how do you grab the width and height of an image using PHP?
What I have is basically the same thing...I got it from Dynamic Drive and edited it too...lol
ethan posted this at 05:23 — 16th July 2004.
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im gettin a parse error w/IE6, sorry
Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /home/ttots/public_html/inc/header.txt
Busy posted this at 05:47 — 16th July 2004.
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to get the images size use PHP getimagesize function
$size = getimagesize("$image");
$width= $size[0]; // get image width
$height= $size[1]; // get image height
you don't have to set width and height to variables, you can just use the $size[0] and $size[1] or I think you can just use $size[3] which has built in width="" and height=""
kb posted this at 14:40 — 16th July 2004.
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About the parse error...I'm trying to fix that...I switched from a handcoded page to a PHP generated page (which is what the site will be), and added functions. Bear with me.
Thanks for the image stuff.
kb posted this at 23:31 — 18th July 2004.
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Ok..I fixed the PHP error...I was missing a ";"...I hate that
Thanks for the advice...my client likes the page
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