Can't Find That Extra "Something"

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Hey...

I'm working on a new website...and i just can't find that additional something to make it better.

The URL is terrifictots.com/index2.php (only page that works)

Two things: the images on the left are temporary until I get my shipment from IStockPhoto, and I know that the copyright isn't on the bottom (Mozilla/Netscape) for some reason.

The company helps kids build motor skills and work on shape and color reconition. I was told to use lots of shapes and primary colors. (The Logo is not-change-able)

Other than that, I'll take any suggestions.

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When I mouse over Directions, it bumps down the rest of the links and the baloon.

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Dragon of Ice wrote: When I mouse over Directions, it bumps down the rest of the links and the baloon.

Not getting that problem? What browser are you using Dragon?

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Quote: Not getting that problem? What browser are you using Dragon?

DJ

That happens in IE. I'm on 6; I don't know about earlier versions.

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I know you said you can't change the logo, but its a bit "fuzzy" can that be improved?

Your "pop-up" menu system is a bit hit and miss in Firefox. I actually struggled to be able to get onto it to click.

I agree that something is missing... not sure what, maybe with the layout. can you join it together some more? it looks kind of seperate at the moment.

Hope some/any of this helps

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Yup. IE6

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yeah check my post .... [url=http://webmaster-forums.net/showthread.php?t=25530]here[/here]

The menu shouldnt be a hit and miss in firefox...I designed the site using firefox: it should be directly to the right of the main item

Blurriness is non-negotiable

So...does anyone have any ideas

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I find the navigation a bit hit and miss in firebird, if you try slide to the extras to slow you miss it, took a few goes to work out you have to do it fast or you miss it. maybe extend the onmouseover (or whatever your using) to the width of the section you have (div or td) sorry didnt study your code.

the copyright bit at the bottom, replace alt= with title= (alt is for images)

You say the logo is unchangable, but I reckon changing the black text or using smaller (skinner) ouline lines around the kids would improve on it a lot.

A lot is going to depend on the images you use and the amount of text you use, at the moment I would say add some images amongest the text to break it up, but it's only fill in so no point.

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Ok...I'll see what i can do tonight

As for the logo...that is a the company's logo. Copyrighted and the whole deal. TOTALLY non-negotiable (meaning I can't change anything)

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You need to show them this post then Wink or tell them images from general media don't always transfer nicely to the web.
Every image that is made is copyrighted (same as text), resizing, lightning ... an image wont effect that, It's only when the actual image itself is changed, i.e. shapes changed etc.
I'd run it past them, and ask if you could "adjust" it slightly to suit the web.

But at the end of the day, if you can't change it you can't change it.

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I tried...

They said no...I even offered to do a new logo for free for them...but...yea

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Hello. I'm a newbie and this is my first post. I agree with everyone one the logo, it is blurry. Maybe you should add some stars, with the rounded points. They are playful and fun.

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Do people only read the first few posts? GAH!

Here's what I tried...I tried to extend the life of the mouseOut function, but it works to an extent: In IE it holds it, but never hides it again. The code I added (inside the mouseout) is:

node.onmouseout=function() {
exec='this.className=this.className.replace(\" over\", "");';
endexec='1000';
        setTimeOut(exec, endexec);
}
'

And as I'm sitting here typing this...I realized that the JS is a fix for IE, because it doesn't accept :hover attributes except for tags. So how can I get a mouseout delay on non-IE browsers? How can I get the mouseout to work on IE?

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That navigation is a bear to negotiate
I gave up on trying to get to the last 2.

Aside from the nav and unchangeably blurry logo, I'd go with something on the right side. Pictures of kids? The staff?

Green and orange are primary colors? Wink The balloons I speak of

Perhaps it will have that "something" when you put some content in

Laughing out loud

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Just a thought, this site is targeted towards kids isn't it? or is it to the parents and kids?
From the logo I'd guess it was very young kids, so would the naviagtion be to complex for them?

How about doing a click/drop type menu, where as you click on the main topic to get the list of sub sections, click on the next section, it hides the other one and displays that sub section.
Could be seen as more 'playful' for the kids and you could use icons beside the menus to brighten it up.
I think I have some code for it somewhere if you want to try it.

If it's not the kids you target then ignore the above

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Its geared towards the parents of kids

But I'll try that menu anyways, see what I can find. If you want you can PM or email me with the code of yours. That may come off better than trying to add-onto the MouseOut time

As for the pictures, there's a separate page. Colors...well, like I said, those images are temporary.

Thanks!

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Ok check it out now...

It still has one issue:
In Firefox/Mozilla, the copyright is under the menu
In IE, the copyright is at the bottom with like 3 inches of space in between
Anyone got ideas (I can't figure it out...I used the same format as my other sites)?

terrifictots.com/index2.php

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Put the text around the crayon image (dont forget the width and height tags) so it becomes a part of it instead of seperate bits

for that copyright, use (or whatever it is)

I'll dig that code out for you, but for what you have, you might want to add a + symbol or change the mousecusor to show they are links
[edit/add] That code I had still had the source link on it, while what I have is different to the orginal, the orginal can be found here, hope it can be of some help.

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Well i would do the width and height tags, but they change with the picture...the picture is randomized via PHP...so how do you grab the width and height of an image using PHP?

What I have is basically the same thing...I got it from Dynamic Drive and edited it too...lol

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im gettin a parse error w/IE6, sorry

Parse error: parse error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in /home/ttots/public_html/inc/header.txt

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to get the images size use PHP getimagesize function

$size = getimagesize("$image");
$width= $size[0]; // get image width
$height= $size[1]; // get image height

you don't have to set width and height to variables, you can just use the $size[0] and $size[1] or I think you can just use $size[3] which has built in width="" and height=""

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About the parse error...I'm trying to fix that...I switched from a handcoded page to a PHP generated page (which is what the site will be), and added functions. Bear with me.

Thanks for the image stuff.

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Ok..I fixed the PHP error...I was missing a ";"...I hate that

Thanks for the advice...my client likes the page

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