That's the thing... there was no reason for it to expire. The domain had been paid for in advance for several years (it was due for payment 03/2003)... So, I am currently awaiting response from the registrar (still) to submit this...
seriously, this really stinks - I hope you guys can get some remediation on this dispute - some $$ would be nice, but that would probably be difficult to accomplish given the nature of the legal situation in HK, among other things - I guess when ya have somethin' worth stealin', some creep will eventually come along and try t' lift it
good luck in yer pursuit of (at least some) justice
This isn't the latest in a string of incompetent bumbling by Verisign. It was ANOTHER REGISTRAR?! WTF? Fricking unbelievable. What is it going to take to stop these people?
Fair warning, however, I know of two people (friends) who lost their domain names from registerclub.com as well, because NMF was supposed to renew the names and didn't.
This really sucks...
Chad i hope you can get some satifaction..
do we need to bombard any one with emails?
I still don't get how a domain name that is paid for can be sold to another person, with out the owners knowledge?
I got a letter in the snail mail from Verisign telling me i needed to renew my domain...not.
And the fine print says by renewing now you will be changing registrars, to them!!
No Way.
But this is a different thing...just how can this happen if the domain isn't expired???
dragonsjaw
"Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight- 'Got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight." - Bruce Cockburn
I've been doing a bit of research on this company ultsearch.com . Apparently it takes the domain names and parks them, hijacking the traffic to the site. I have read about numerous sites that have been hijacked like this. Here is some info on one site:
Quote: Our host did not notify us to renew our domain name,
it expired and now is owned by someone else...We have
done everything to try to get it back, and finally
decided to move on a new one, as we couldn't even
reach the new owner...
The new owner took our domain name, to legally "steal"
our traffic, by redirecting it to his search engine...
Fortunately, over 90% of our traffic was coming from
our subscribers. He really, doesn't know what he is
doing, if he thinks that webmasters and business
owners, will buy from his "Next Card Visa" affiliate
banner...Furthermore, it seems that he set up the
whole ultsearch.com, just to make money...This
usually, doesn't work.
This very important situation has caused us a lot
of troubles, but right now, the most important
thing is to get our site back online as soon as
possible. It will be under the name:
eInfoReporterEzine.com , that fortunately most of you
liked.
Mark Irving I have a mind like a steel trap; it is rusty and illegal in 47 states
Hey! Wasn't anyone gonna tell me! I've been going through withdrawals here. I felt like the family dog who got home only to find everyone had moved.
I checked the whois on Monday when I couldn't access the site and found it available for registration. In retrospect, I should have just grabbed it for y'all
In any event, a rose by any other name...
Thanks to Suzanne for putting that update on her blog!
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Suzanne posted this at 04:28 — 28th May 2002.
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I believe it was stolen. Or at the very least, it's been lost.
The Webmistress posted this at 13:08 — 28th May 2002.
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OMG how has someone done that??
mairving posted this at 13:12 — 28th May 2002.
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Yep, here is the DNS info:
Domain Name: webmaster-forums.com
Registrant:
Search, Ultimate [email protected]
Ultimate Search
GPO Box 7862
Central, HK na
HK
Phone: 852-2537-9677
Fax: 852-2537-9677
Administrative:
Search, Ultimate [email protected]
Ultimate Search
GPO Box 7862
Central, HK na
HK
Phone: 852-2537-9677
Fax: 852-2537-9677
Technical:
Search, Ultimate [email protected]
Ultimate Search
GPO Box 7862
Central, HK na
HK
Phone: 852-2537-9677
Fax: 852-2537-9677
Billing:
Search, Ultimate [email protected]
Ultimate Search
GPO Box 7862
Central, HK na
HK
Phone: 852-2537-9677
Fax: 852-2537-9677
Record created: 2002-05-26 16:23:53
Record expires: 2003-05-26 16:23:53
Domain Name Servers:
Mark Irving
I have a mind like a steel trap; it is rusty and illegal in 47 states
Wil posted this at 13:13 — 28th May 2002.
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It seems that the domain name expired and someone has re-registered it.
Chad Simper posted this at 13:26 — 28th May 2002.
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That's the thing... there was no reason for it to expire. The domain had been paid for in advance for several years (it was due for payment 03/2003)... So, I am currently awaiting response from the registrar (still) to submit this...
mairving posted this at 13:32 — 28th May 2002.
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Chad, can you email the users and tell them to go to Webmaster-forums.net until this is resolved.
detox posted this at 13:57 — 28th May 2002.
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any news on how this happened yet?
The Webmistress posted this at 14:53 — 28th May 2002.
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I can't believe this has happened!!!
mmi posted this at 15:52 — 28th May 2002.
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seriously, this really stinks
- I hope you guys can get some remediation on this dispute - some $$ would be nice, but that would probably be difficult to accomplish given the nature of the legal situation in HK, among other things - I guess when ya have somethin' worth stealin', some creep will eventually come along and try t' lift it 
good luck in yer pursuit of (at least some) justice
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Suzanne posted this at 16:28 — 28th May 2002.
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This isn't the latest in a string of incompetent bumbling by Verisign. It was ANOTHER REGISTRAR?! WTF? Fricking unbelievable. What is it going to take to stop these people?
Fair warning, however, I know of two people (friends) who lost their domain names from registerclub.com as well, because NMF was supposed to renew the names and didn't.
Be VERY careful with your domain names.
Suzanne
dragonsjaw posted this at 00:57 — 29th May 2002.
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This really sucks...
Chad i hope you can get some satifaction..
do we need to bombard any one with emails?
I still don't get how a domain name that is paid for can be sold to another person, with out the owners knowledge?
I got a letter in the snail mail from Verisign telling me i needed to renew my domain...not.
And the fine print says by renewing now you will be changing registrars, to them!!
No Way.
But this is a different thing...just how can this happen if the domain isn't expired???
dragonsjaw
"Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight- 'Got to kick at the darkness 'til it bleeds daylight." - Bruce Cockburn
Suzanne posted this at 01:57 — 29th May 2002.
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Joined: Feb 2000
forged fax.
that's the most common. A transfer to another registrar as well.
Abhishek Reddy posted this at 04:04 — 29th May 2002.
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Jeez... this is crazy.
mairving posted this at 13:22 — 29th May 2002.
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Joined: Feb 2001
I've been doing a bit of research on this company ultsearch.com . Apparently it takes the domain names and parks them, hijacking the traffic to the site. I have read about numerous sites that have been hijacked like this. Here is some info on one site:
Mark Irving
I have a mind like a steel trap; it is rusty and illegal in 47 states
taff posted this at 13:54 — 29th May 2002.
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Hey! Wasn't anyone gonna tell me! I've been going through withdrawals here. I felt like the family dog who got home only to find everyone had moved.
I checked the whois on Monday when I couldn't access the site and found it available for registration. In retrospect, I should have just grabbed it for y'all
In any event, a rose by any other name...
Thanks to Suzanne for putting that update on her blog!
.....
mairving posted this at 14:11 — 29th May 2002.
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Taff, we are only going to keep those who were able to figure it out for themselves, LOL.
Did you not receive an email? Chad sent one out.
taff posted this at 14:33 — 29th May 2002.
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Nope. In fact, *I* sent Chad an email asking what was up. Didn't hear back.
I did change my email address in the profile at one point - perhaps he was working off an old list.
.....
Suzanne posted this at 16:31 — 29th May 2002.
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Hey, you're welcome, Taff. I posted in a bunch of places, hoping that someone would trip over the information.
taff posted this at 18:53 — 29th May 2002.
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even using the .net address or IP address, I'm having a heck of a time getting in here today!
Suzanne posted this at 19:06 — 29th May 2002.
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Me, too. I sent Chad a note about it. Hopefully this time it's just technical.
mmi posted this at 20:15 — 30th May 2002.
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I just clicked on an email link and was sent to these creeps - no email address that I can see
I guess you guys know this, but I looked up the domain
[email protected]
release the hounds! :bunny:
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