Wanna start programming, but what?

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I have some experience in "programming" in javacript, but now I want to start trying out with ASP... I think that ASP would be the best choise to do it in. Now my question is: Where can I get a beginners manual on programming in ASP?

And is ASP the best internet programming language to start with?

What allso could be good, just to start with, is if anyone of you could give me a piece of code, that could put a javscript variable into a database. What I mean is, I call a funktion in javascript, and the e.g. ASP take over an variable, and puts it into a database, so that I can on an other page put it into the code somehow.
Did that make any sence? I suppose not, but maybe you can try to help me anyway...

Casper

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Hi Casper,

Which language you learn next is really dependent upon your present capabilities and future needs. Also, the resources (server, etc) you have at hand play a major part.

If you are really conversant with javascript, you might want to tackle php next. Because its syntax is similar, the learning curve will be smoother. ASP, for the most part, uses vbScript, which is based on BASIC.

If you are going to play with dbmses (data base management systems -- Access, mySQL, etc), you will need to learn SQL. http://www.sitepoint.com has a good php/mySQL tutorial on setting up and using a database.

Books: if you are a reader, virtually anything by O'Reilly publishers. I've heard that WROX's beginner ASP book is very good.

I'm sure Chad will have more suggestions/opinions.

Hope this helps
Vinny

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What can you do with PHP? Can you make all sorts of databases, as I know that you can using ASP, and will it be easyer for me to learn?

What is the best PHP toturial then? Maybe you can tell me...

Casper

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Hoooo-wang!

PHP is easier to learn than ASP, in my humbled opinion. I dun like ASP too much.. anyways!

http://php.resourceindex.com is my favorite PHP tutorial place.

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ASP and PHP are both good languages to learn. Do whatever is more appealing to you. Personally, both can be used equally on a web site, but would be more interested in learning PHP first.

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I know both ASP and PHP [fairly well, if I may say so].

PHP is easier. It has more similarities to javascript than ASP [such as curly braces]. Variable handling is also easier in PHP [no data types, and no 'request' objects].

For what I think you'll be doing, don't worry about that stuff. If your on a *nix box, use PHP [or perl]. If your on a NT box, use ASP. Most servers don't support both languages on one box, so just learn the one that they have on it.

Mark Hensler
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PHP it is Smiling

I have seen all the mails, and I have decided to start learning PHP!

I have been looking at http://php.resourceindex.com and I think that it will be just the place for me to start!

You will probably hear back from me later, when I have problems with the programming...

Thanks for all the quick ansvers.
Casper

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If you need an online reference, http://php.net is the best.

If you want a book, I recommend the 'PHP4 Bible' written by: Tim Converse and Joyce Park [publisher: IDG].

Mark Hensler
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Thanks, I ´will look at the wook, when I get sobar Smiling

I apreciate all the help that you goys have given me...

Casper

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What about Cold Fusion? Would that be a good place to start for someone looking to develop web applications without any programming experience?

I have heard that it is pretty easy to learn and you can create some good web applications with it.

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Hi Chris,

Cold Fusion is like a combination of html & javascript. So if you are good at those, it shouldn't be that difficult to learn. I personally have never used it for anything, but I have helped a number of people with their code. Also, I know that the old javascripts.com at earthweb crashed a lot because of it. But I suspect that was because the code was spaghetti more than code.
If you are thinking for the future, though, I would learn asp or php first. You should be able to learn ColdFusion a week before you take any contracts. (no offense to any cold fusion people out there Smiling

Vinny

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I have so desided to learn ASP in stead, while that will be able to run direcktly from my computer. I have allready started, but I want it out on the internet... Can anyone give me a suggestien to a free website provider (such as geocities) that supports ASP? I have been looking for that in quite a while now, but without any result... I realy hope that someone can help me... I cant realy afford to buy my own server so...

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