Frontpage 2003 appears to be manipulating code when publishing

msquires wrote: Does anyone know how to get round this "feature" of frontpage.

Uninstall it.

Seriously, I use FP 2002, and it's terrible about doing things like that. I've never found any way around it but switching to an HTML/CSS combo and using a text editor. It can be a huge pain if your only option is FP.

Not what you wanted to hear, I'm sure...

FP is notorious for inserting bad and bloated code. If you *must* use this awful beast then do like Tim says and run a text editor alongside it.

I have spoken to Microsoft about this, and although the chap was helpful he couldn't suggest how to fix it, only a work around and the fact it is javascript gives MS a way out of sorting it. If I use the script on the index page and don't use shared borders it works fine, as soon as I use shared borders frontpage starts playing "musical code". I have tried getting to grips with dreamweaver but it isn't as easy to get my head round as FP.

The only thing I can suggest is uninstalling it, I believe the editor of choice at the moment is Dreamweaver. The joy of Dreamweaver is that it'll do as much as you want, but swiftly move out of your way when you want to code something yourself.

If you need free then go for something like HTML Kit, a very good little text-editor with plenty of plugins for all your (X)HTML needs

There are of course lots of different choices out there, I just hope your not limited to Frontpage.

FP usually adjusts code for itself; it does not consider other coding process; that is why, different code/scripts is edited or appended by FP...

You could search for other Web development programs made with the same usability as FP in mind, only limited by support, but works quite well and not alter your code....

You might want to give nvu a try. It is "made by" the same people who brought us Firefox

...I think...

Quote: Now anyone can create web pages and manage a website with no technical expertise or knowledge of HTML.

lol, heard it all before!

I think you still need technical expertise; it just make it a little bit easier???
I heard or read a new one "bluevoda"; "blue voda", something like that...

Dump it, use notepad or something else.

Hehehe, notepad is hardcore! Break the poor guy in slowly, at least something like Dreamweaver formats your code with pretty colours

I have been using notepad eversince; i teach html by notepad too...
Html-Kit would be great for a beginner though...
Dreamweaver for those over-eager to start making pages...
FP... Sucks
I even have one friend using MS word; the Other Power Point... Dang!

Word/Powerpoint... I've seen friends using these Apps before for web sites and was unashamedly rude to them about it (bless them, they did look a bit hurt). There is just no need for that kind of behaviour though!!

(Probably too passionate, but just can't help it )

Since I'm the one who originally suggested you dump FP, I thought I'd jump back in with my plain text editor of choice, just in case you decide to go that route:

http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html

Scite is a great little editor. It can be used with minimal customization if you don't want to mess with its plain text config files. If you decide to learn how to configure it, however, it is well worth the effort. It can be set up to "know" any programming language, which is very useful.

Of course, it comes preconfigured with many standards. I believe the distro comes with the following already set up: C#, C++, Perl, PHP, Javascript, CSS, HTML, SQL, XML, VB. I know there's many more, I just personally removed the ones I didn't think I would be using all that often.

I've looked at dreamweaver, and it is so full of junk that it is intimidating. Note pad would be easier. I use coffee cup, I only use it like note pad though, I like having the lines numbered, makes editing a lot easier. Also the split browser view might be handy for some.

It will start you out with the basic page tags, and has some scripts if you want to use them. I've been using it for years now, and like the do it yourself simplicity of CC. While keeping things orderly. I think they have a shareware version now for download?. I believe CC is probably one of the best for a beginner, has enough pre-built stuff, plus the freedom to be creative, and do it all yourself. Without being a hard to learn editor; it's not drop and drag though.

Quote: I use coffee cup, I only use it like note pad though, I like having the lines numbered, makes editing a lot easier

Funnily enough that's exactly how I use DW. DW is simple. If you never bother with the WYSIWYG stuff and the auto generate gibberish on demand "wizards", and simply use it as a code editor with good syntax colouring and very useful site and project views it works perfectly.

Now if only Edit+ had the site management features I'd never open DW again.

I use Notepad++ (from sourceforge) it's pretty awesome, but I mostly use it for sorting out if statements in PHP.

I would suggest trying to put the javascript in the option.

Hey msquires, I use FP 03 and had the same issue and how I fixed it was to insert a single row table and in the left border and put the FP generated buttons in the table. Look at this and maybe it will help. http://www.sitemanagementservices.com/

Yeah... FP is pretty bad.

I would also suggest using a basic text editor, such as Notepad or TextEdit (the Mac program), as you do seem to have quite a lot of knowledge of coding - more than I do, at least. I only do HTML/CSS, and find TextEdit to be just right for what I do...