Begginner nneding some help, please !! - Basic questions.
I have only recently began learning html and am therefore aware of only the basics. I really want to design my own web page, and i would be gratefull if you could answer a few of my questions. Anybodys help would be very much appreciated.
Here goes...
1) I know I have just started to learn html, and have heard of Java and other languages. Is it best to master html and go on to learn the others. If so what should I look to learn next ?
2)How did you guys learn web programming ? I have been trying to use books and the internet. Any recommended ?
3)I am currently half way through desiging my Home page. How do I get it to link to another page with my own site. Is it just with the <AH> tag to the file that the page is saved as.
4) I'm also a bit confused about how to transfer it to the internet via an FTP program. Once you send your files to the ftp server, how does it get online. Or is that all you need to do ?
Thanks for anyones time.
Daniel
JP Stones posted this at 21:35 — 16th September 1999.
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1/ My preffered order: HTML/JavaScript/Perl/ASP
2/ I started at HTMLGoodies.com for HTML and went through every tutorial.
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cmcm posted this at 21:35 — 16th September 1999.
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1. Yes, and IMO, learning some simple JavaScript, then maybe a little CGI couldn't hurt.
2. I learned it from various websites, and once I had the basics down about how to use tags and such, I bought a book with all the tags and just referenced that when I needed to. I have created an HTML tutorial, located at http://tutorial.page.webjump.com/. It's very easy to understand.
3. The tag to link is <a href="URL">Click here</a>. Just put your other page where URL is. If you want to link to a different site, you need to put http:// in front or it will cause errors.
4. With FTP programs, once you are connected, just upload your pages/images. They will be accessible immediately.
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Jim Shilt posted this at 03:54 — 17th September 1999.
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My personal favorite HTML tutorial is found here http://junior.apk.net/~jbarta/index.html
After you go through it you will be able to do 90% of everything you will ever need.
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Anonymous posted this at 17:26 — 17th September 1999.
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A good way to learn HTML is to take a simple WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) editor like the Netscape Composer or Adobe Pagemill, mess around, and then look at the source code that comes out. That way you can compare little by little which HTML creates which look.
Of course, you need to be aware that the code generated by most WYSIWYG editors is not good code (An exeption might be Dreamweaver).
That's the way I learned HTML. I guess it only works if your brain has some kinda intuitive interface to programming languages. I would not start the real programming (HTML is not a programming language, its a markup language like PostScript) with JavaScript. Although it is not a full-featured programming langauge, its power s often underestimated. However, there arent as good developing and debugging tools for JavaScript compared to most other langauges, so it can easily be frustrating.
My first "real" programming language was Perl, and I can only recommend it. It was says that it is too cryptic, however, when you see through it you notice that its crypticism makes it less irritating. Pretty weird, hah. Well, the main point for Perl are the excellent documentation. "Learning Perl" is simply unbeatable.
I would not recommend C at all. One the one hand its not very popular among us web guys, and one the other hand its powerfulness can be easily overwhelming. Java is more widely used, but I personally dont see any use for it. Maybe there are people who like Applets. I dont. ServerSided-Java is a different story but only interesting for high traffic sites.
Later,
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John Pollock posted this at 21:05 — 17th September 1999.
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ROTFLMAO
elara posted this at 02:53 — 18th September 1999.
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I learned the languages in the following order...
HTML, C, Javascript, Perl, CGI, PHP, ASP, Java. Learning Javascript as a first programming language is quite a good choice, if you're not comfortable with it due to its object based nature, you can try some procedural languages such as C, BASIC, or even Pascal. All of them are old languages but that's what undergraduates are studying. Don't go for Perl as your first programming language... Its cryptic and not so good for a beginner. PHP is very easy to learn but there aren't a lot of good documentation for it.
Learning programming languages itself is not enough, you need to learn more on software design, data structures, algorithm designs, database integration etc.
Just my 2 cents.
BizTwang posted this at 02:58 — 19th September 1999.
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<BizTwang>...'Surf' the web and 'view source' of sites that interest you. Analyze the design and code.
...I recommend two very 'friendly' books (about $20.00 each)...from the Visual Quickstart Guide series:"HTML 4.0 for the World Wide Web" (also 3.2) by Elizabeth Castro and "Javascript for the WWW" by Tom Negrino and Dori Smith.
(Don't confuse Javascript with Java). Eventually you'll want to learn CSS (cascading style sheets), and DHTML (dynamic html).
FTP? Ask your internet service provider for help, the will know your exact URL (address) of your homepage (usually \index.html.
Download a free (careware) HTML editor called ARACHNOPHILIA 3.9 from www.arachnoid.com It makes coding easy and has great help files and built in FTP to help update your site.
Check out tutorials at CNET's http://www.builder.com or http://webreference.com/dev
...Good Luck!</BizTwang>
xdawgx posted this at 04:30 — 21st September 1999.
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Wow, thanks everyone for replying.
Your help is very much appreciated.
It has helped me alot.
Once again, thanks!!!
Anonymous posted this at 20:46 — 23rd September 1999.
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A note to <BizTwang>.
How wierd it is - I learn exactly the same way as you. View Source, then I bought those same two books and found them quite useful.
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AndyB posted this at 21:08 — 23rd September 1999.
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Now you know how to do it all, take a look at my newbie design tips site at http://clik.to/somewhere and you may get some *good* design ideas (I hope so, at least)
Andrew Morrison posted this at 18:17 — 1st October 1999.
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What about the tutorials on this very site?
I started out with a wysiwyg and then went through JP's tutorials.
They're a VERY quick way to learn the basics. You could be sticking together basic(ish) sites in three days.
John Pollock posted this at 23:06 — 1st October 1999.
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JP has HTML tutorials?
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Andrew Morrison posted this at 00:36 — 5th October 1999.
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Sorry, my mistook.
I was referring to the chap above.
His tutorials are indeed the dogs bollocks.
(this means good to anyone unfamiliar with Brit terminology)
JP Stones posted this at 01:55 — 5th October 1999.
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He does?
Andrew must mean either the articles in my archive or your site...
JP
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