low system resources

What OS are you running?

Check your start-up folder (usually C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp) and see if there's shortcuts in there. If there is, they will keep re-checking themselves when you boot.

You can also check out the following keys in the registry:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunOnce]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServicesOnce]

Even better... This will allow you to check/uncheck items without permanently removing them from the registry.

Start > Run > msconfig
Go to the Startup tab
Uncheck whatever you dont want running

DO NOT allow RealPlayer or RealTray or Real anything startup. Those cause serious resource consuption.

Quote: I tried to go to 'system configuration utility' and uncheck the items in startup BUT when I shut my computer all the way off and back on, they are all back!

It sounds like she already tried that Mark. If they keep re-checking themselves we need to go elsewhere and remove them.

/me slaps self and reads first post... 8P

I need to know what OS she has, I might be sending her on a wild goose chase in the registry.

You got night shift or sumthin, or are you as addicted to the internet as me?

I'm addicted. I should have been in bed a few hours ago.

She has already tried those suggestions. I told her to contact Hewlet Packard about a bios issue with her board. She has removed items from startup, (Hopefully listened to me telling her to download regcleaner.exe from microsoft's download page).

She is asking a more advanced troubleshooting suggestion since she has tried these things.

She is running window ME

K

Do you know her personally? If you do, I suggest you go over there and do these steps yourself. She is probably missing something. There is only a handful of places where programs startup from on a Windows machine. Every single entry can be found.

I wouldn't waste my time with HP, this is not a BIOS problem. This is a simple Windows problem that we can talk her through.

I do know her, but the you confirmed what I have said already.

It should be a simple problem.
Check the start menu
Check the registry

I have seen viruses roadmaps with this reaction which is a possibitlity, but I believe she is running a virus scanner, and knows how to boot off nav's cd to hit the file system before a memory resident virus can hit (lovebug etc)

She still needs people to throw out ideas.

I told her the other night to call HP directly, she chose to hit the board, and has received the same response as I gave her so it is up to her at this point to contact HP, or wipe and reload.

Troubleshooting this might find it to be a corrupted active x, virus etc. She should have the tools on the system, and I know she has the ability to use them.

Can you think of anything else that would cause this?

K

ME is awful with memory management. Maybe even worse than 98. It has a big problem releasing memory that it has used. Windows 2000 is kind of expensive but it does have much better memory management. Anyway certain programs can't be disabled by msconfig. Programs like RealAudio will only stay disabled until you use them again. You have to disable it by opening up the program and disabling the Startcenter. Some programs like MS Messenger can't be disabled from the system tray. At least no without hacking the registry or uninstalling. Some people have also had good success using Startup Cop

Anyway Debsweb, how much memory do you have in your computer? With 256MB Crucial memory going for $34, it may be time to stick in another stick.

See here is the thing. My PC (Win 2000 Pro) came with 128 Ram, I recently got a 256 stick to put in it as well. But My PC is only fractionally better than before.....
Just after start up I have already lost over 100 MB of RAM.....

What can us poor victims of Microsoft do??!!

Detox, that is probably a hardware thing with your memory. What kind of memory is it? Some of the generics are not so good. You might try taking the 128 stick out and seeing if there is any diff or moving the 256 to the 1 slot.

OK OK I'll call HP Sam! Thanks for the suggestions everyone, is memory really that cheap?
I only have 128 mb of RAM, hhhmmmmm. I want windows 2000. Sam, I don't care about the warranty anymore I want ME OFF my computer! Can you help me get it?

This thread took a 180 degree turn since I started posting. It took a simple program startup problem and turned into an upgrading questionaire.

If you want to upgrade to 2000, that's fine. I've fixed so many machines that upgraded to ME from 98, more than half of them went back to 98 or went to 2000. It's your call. If you want to fix what you have, let me know. Throwing another stick of RAM in does not solve the initial problem of this post. All the programs will still be starting up and using resources.

I'm backing out gracefully until I'm needed again..

tmay you helped, that is what she needed to see, that the system needed software config, or had an operating system problem. I warned her about millenium when she bought the computer. It is making itself known now.

I have spare oem win2k I will help Deb.

K

Getting rid of ME is a wise choice in the long run from what I've seen so far.

Good Luck with 2000 Deb!

Yep, 2000 is much better.

Tmay, not sure why this has been so upsetting to you. Adding memory will indeed boost the performance of a machine. It is not the answer to all problems but it can help and with memory prices so low, it should be a no brainer. I guess I remember the old days where instead of 128M, you would have 128K. To me it is just a matter of giving someone the options and letting them decide.

lol mairving

The first time I tried to install ME's offically released version it hosed, then after about 30 reloads because of corrupted this, hosed this, I warned everyone against it. People are running it, why? because it is preloaded on the system.

A computer is only as good as it's weakest link, and ME is definitely a weak link.

Deb, start backing up your files to a folder on your desktop.

Organize it, that will be the only thing that gets saved in the wipe and reload (of 2k)

What HP do you have, also what version of ADSL modem did pb give you. Enternet 3000 may have support under 2k.

I will start pulling drivers for you and place them onto a cd when you let me know.

K

I'm not upset with anybody. If I sounded that way, I apologize. I was ready to roll my sleeves up and repair this lady's machine when the focus moved away from the initial problem of the post, that's all. When I realized that repairing her already existant OS was out of the equation, I backed off. The decision is hers and I think she'll better off with 2000 anyway, but that's not what she was posting about first.

I agree about the RAM. My only point was adding RAM does not fix her initial problem, it may make it seem more tolerable, but it doesn't fix it. That's all, I'm not updet with anybody here!

I think mairving did not see the bold ME, thinking you were referring to yourself.

I run 512 megs, it DOES help.

K

Thanks tmay.... I really DO need the help, this "techy" stuff is really foriegn to me. Trial & error almost always ends in disaster for me. maye with a new OS the problem will just fix itself?
BTW, I was able to just not have anything start up except windows (not even my internet connection) and my system resources were still 81% Whats up with that???

Lemme know when you have time to help me recreate my machine Sam.

OK Sam...I have a HP Pavilion 1.4ghz P4
Pacbell gave me a 4060 USB modem Ummm, Enternet 300.
AND the reason why I accepted the ME (laying down) is because HP, in their infinite wisdom, told me I have no warranty if I change the OS. I have decided, though, that I probably won't need a warranty if I just lose ME
thank you Sam for helping me. Talk to you soon....
OH! I have my networking class tonight ~ due in part to you!

That is so cool that you went ahead with it!

You picked up things so fast in the meetings, and discussions with those in Chicago, hey I never told you, thank you for your help with the Investors.

working on your drivers now (edit)
K

Thank you for almost singlehandedly saving Powerband. I really miss it.

This class is unreal (to me) second week we had to draw 2 complete network designs and give -in front of the class-AAAhhhh- proposal presentations! I asked "Isn't this the kind of stuff for a final project or end of semester work?" everyone just laughed. I'm really not sure I know what I am getting into.
I'm almost late now bye!

Start researching network topologies.

Get dns, (remember our domain discussion) down.

Understand that an IP is translated into a name with the use of a DNS server.

In a simplified web server environment you would have these items

Remember our two linux dns servers, and the router, and the 3 web servers.

Remember the two 24 port switches in our rack?

Those were serving PBNionline.com

The little box that John had running was not the mail server as he had everyone believing, it was pbnionline's webserver.

Our two webservers (NT2000, and the other case next to it) Linux webserver, had there own ip.

Those are all part of a network topology.

They are in fact the network topology.

This post is rambling but what is really going to help you is to start thinking of the different parts to the system, then study, read and try to find answer as to why things work.

If they are that far along then SPEAK UP! When I went through my mcse classes in 99 the class was way behind when I entered. I was frustrated because they were teaching at such a low level. It is purely relative to the student. The teach WILL in fact change their way of teaching, content of teaching etc based on students request. It sounds like this is a vocational class? If it is then DO speak up, ask to speak to the teacher after class and have them understand that this is way beyond what you expected. They might have been asking for a presentation this early on to see at what level the class is in order to gauge at what level they should teach.

Above ALL else (Especially you already sitting on a masters) FINISH THIS! no matter what. You will be much better for it in finding a job in what you want to do. BTW you owe me an espresso.

Raincheck

K

So would you say that PBN had a star topology?
everything came off of the switch?
Or went into the switch....even the router.
That extra server that the ADHD kid had, that he said was not on out network - was that coming off the switch too?

last night I made my first straight-thru-patch-cord out of an Ethernet 10base-T Cable!
I stripped the cable seperated the wires and fitted it into an RJ45 Plug, then crimped it....and VOILA it worked! I have it here at home for a souvenir.

Come by anytime for that Espresso.........
*wake me up if I'm asleep

Right, think of buss topology as a water hose with little holes in it. The holes represent the nodes.

The only thing we had was star networks.

There were about 4.

The front office were off the switch, as well as the server rooms laptops and Dave vb station.

The tech room had a star off of the switch to the 6 or 7 programmers computers, were part of a star.

Some people confuse this network as a star/buss because we had hubs daisy chained. They are still a star.

That 10BT cable that you used would be used in a token ring, star and a bus network.

Hence the use of T's to terminate into each node, and then continue the star or the buss.

You have me ancy now for that Espresso.

K